CORE Cursed Mage problems [vote up for curse suggestions]

Grimhawke-EB · Jan 2nd 2019, 8:05pm

Theat wrote:

Armor Piercer: Cursed 'W' ability

All enemies take 272 damage, 45 pierce resistance for 8 seconds.

Energy Cost--39
Cast Time--instant
Cooldown--15 seconds

Cataclysm: Damnation 'E' ability

All enemies take 424 damage, 51 pierce resistance for 8 seconds.

Energy Cost--109
Cast Time--2.5 seconds
Cooldown--45 seconds

Yeah it's pretty retarded. The AOE is big for Cataclysm, but it is telegraphed for 2.5 seconds so anyone not in the center of the target area can just dodge it by walking out. If you get the angle right with armor piercer it's not uncommon to hit 5+ targets in ZvZ.

Fenz · Jan 10th 2019, 5:38pm

Cursed Staffs:

Cursed Sickle (all Cursed Staffs)

Is now a skillshot with a boomerang-like trajectory.
Hitdelay: 0.5s -> 0.2s
Standtime: 0.3s -> 0.4s
Range: 21m -> 16m
Cooldown: 3.5s -> 5s

RottenH20 · Jan 10th 2019, 5:39pm

Same thing happens to the new bow “q”

They nerfed the range

Raithe · Jan 10th 2019, 6:43pm

5 sec cd seems stiff on a q spell.

Coonery · Jan 10th 2019, 11:30pm

why 5 seconds when the new fire Q is 2 seconds? literally makes no sense to double nerf it....guess they dont wana people to use it that bad lol

RottenH20 · Jan 10th 2019, 11:54pm

Still curse relic weapons face massive flaws in PvP

RottenH20 · Jan 10th 2019, 11:59pm

Cleric cowl buff is good for solo 1h curse

But tbh I’m sticking to cleric robe + graveguard

letwolf · Jan 11th 2019, 11:24am

They maked shit. 3.5 second was good, but 5 for that Q is meh. not usable skill again
And range? 21 m was interesting, but 16 m is... not enough in zvz

Arqe · Jan 11th 2019, 1:24pm

Dude dont you get it ? They are buffing little and nerfing high.And at the end they saying "we are working on it,as u see there are some buffs too".

I really regret to famed up my curse 400/400.Was waiting a real buff since 1 year.

Planning to respec and give all credits to usefull weapon.

Wadefu · Jan 11th 2019, 3:22pm

Obviously their are curse lines that are flawed but thats the case with all the lines. Currently curse is used heavily in 5v5 and 1v1 builds. It's missing a zvz weapon, but most lines can do 2 out of 3 well.

Long gone are the days where curse was the god tier weapon and you guys shouldn't look for it to be that anymore.

Curse runs into a problem with using CD reduction and trying to get a double tick on the dot. 3.5 seconds + a CD on food would make sickle double tick like crazy and with the range + boomerang effect.... If you think this was legit....

letwolf · Jan 11th 2019, 3:31pm

Yes, it would be normal. IN ZVZ. Do you think that curse, even with double dot, can kill someone in zvz? All these dots healed by backline healers easily. So dots should be large range, low cd, heavy pressure. Or it cant even compare with current "insta-aoe-dmg" people in chokes.

Fenz · Jan 11th 2019, 4:06pm

Long gone are the days where curse was the god tier weapon and you guys shouldn't look for it to be that anymore.

Did you even read any post here? Personally I just want to be useful in a ZvZ with a curse weapon. I saw nobody here asking for curse to be god tier...

Wadefu · Jan 11th 2019, 5:32pm

Fenz wrote:

Did you even read any post here? Personally I just want to be useful in a ZvZ with a curse weapon. I saw nobody here asking for curse to be god tier...

Having cursed sickle be fucking 21 meters? You can literally stand at the bottom of the gvg choke on resource maps and interrupts caps.

I understand curse doesn't have a good E spell for zvz, but neither do any of the bruiser lines.

Theat · Jan 11th 2019, 8:47pm

Raithe wrote:

5 sec cd seems stiff on a q spell.

New Q is unplayable with 5 second cooldown

And no Damnation staff change... disappointing for Cursed players (considering Guardian helm now removed DOTs).

Big nerfs to Cursed staves this patch.

Theat · Jan 11th 2019, 8:48pm

Wadefu wrote:

Obviously their are curse lines that are flawed but thats the case with all the lines. Currently curse is used heavily in 5v5 and 1v1 builds. It's missing a zvz weapon, but most lines can do 2 out of 3 well.

Long gone are the days where curse was the god tier weapon and you guys shouldn't look for it to be that anymore.

Curse runs into a problem with using CD reduction and trying to get a double tick on the dot. 3.5 seconds + a CD on food would make sickle double tick like crazy and with the range + boomerang effect.... If you think this was legit....

The only useable Cursed staff is going to be Great Curse, and specifically to remove HOT (Nature) spells.

Outside of that, Cursed is getting nerfed into the ground (Guardian Helm, remove DOTs GG).

RottenH20 · Jan 11th 2019, 8:55pm

Theat wrote:

Wadefu wrote:

Obviously their are curse lines that are flawed but thats the case with all the lines. Currently curse is used heavily in 5v5 and 1v1 builds. It's missing a zvz weapon, but most lines can do 2 out of 3 well.

Long gone are the days where curse was the god tier weapon and you guys shouldn't look for it to be that anymore.

Curse runs into a problem with using CD reduction and trying to get a double tick on the dot. 3.5 seconds + a CD on food would make sickle double tick like crazy and with the range + boomerang effect.... If you think this was legit....

The only useable Cursed staff is going to be Great Curse, and specifically to remove HOT (Nature) spells.
Outside of that, Cursed is getting nerfed into the ground (Guardian Helm, remove DOTs GG).

Also extra health nerfs 1h curse 1 shot potential

Theat · Jan 11th 2019, 9:02pm

Great Curse will probably stay in GVG 5V5 to remove HOTs.

Other than that, very few reasons to stick with Cursed unfortunately.

(Also they still leave Damnation a piece of turd)

bielSchneider · Jan 16th 2019, 7:31pm

Im my opinion all E spell on cursed may stacks vile curse. For instance damnation should stack 1 when hit

Coonery · Jan 17th 2019, 7:37pm

can we finally get a grudge bug fix? atleast make it do 1 Stack Base damage every reapplication its literally like 20 damage...

nerul · Jan 17th 2019, 9:09pm

bump for curse beam buff/rework and for fixing the damnation staff E

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