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Bogul · Aug 28th 2018, 11:01pm

Topic of the week#7 & #8 & #9: Weapon Pages & Discord Channel

Updates:

As mentioned here, we have our own Discord channel now! Its on the official Albion Discord: #wiki-discussion. Come and say hello
We're still giving away 10x 750-gold-codes every week to contributors! Details here.
- Past winners: #1, #2, #3
As discussed, the unification process of the weapon pages is in full force. That means we won't be dealing with one page for every weapon, but instead do weapon-family pages - based on the destiny board unlocks.
- Examples:
- ~~We haven't found a good design for the pages yet. A lot of the pages need a haircut and have to be cut down to the essentials (worst offender: swords.)~~
  - edit: this one is the current design playground: wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Pyromancer
- If you have the gift of a wiki or webdesigner, feel free to help make this look slick, so we can use the design for the other weapon family pages.
- Along with setting up the basics for the weapon pages, I have put in redirects for all individual weapon and armor names, so now if you search for a weapon or armor you should no longer see red (dead) links. Yay.

OsKiDo · Aug 28th 2018, 11:31pm

@Bogul

When did you chose the winners ?
I updated a page the 27 august

N 17:28

Baby Swamp Salamander‎ (diff | hist) . . (+291)‎ . . OsKiDo (talk | contribs) (Created page with "Baby S

I'm not asking for gold, just for aswers

wiki.albiononline.com/index.ph…l:RecentChanges&limit=500

Bogul · Aug 28th 2018, 11:33pm

OsKiDo wrote:

@Bogul

When did you chose the winners ?
I updated a page the 27 august

N 17:28 Baby Swamp Salamander‎ (diff | hist) . . (+291)‎ . . OsKiDo (talk | contribs) (Created page with "Baby S

I'm not asking for gold, just for aswers

wiki.albiononline.com/index.ph…l:RecentChanges&limit=500

I had a list of names provided to me by @Dero

.. i'll look into it

Dero · Aug 29th 2018, 3:55pm

Hi @Unii,

as it turned out there was an issue with Items/Skills that contained no spaces in their localized name. The code would then think that it is a unique item name and wouldn't start to search for the item by localized name.

I fixed this not so that unique names are better distinguished from localized names. You can see that all images on wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Hammers are now loading propertly.

Regarding the icon for 'Earth Shatter' you will probably still need to switch over to the unique name 'HAMMERWHIRLWIND2' as the skill name is not unique to the single icon and thus may result in different results at different times.

I hope that your issues are now fixed. If you notice anything else just tell me.

Best regards,
Dero

Rolu · Aug 30th 2018, 10:06pm

Hi @Bogul

I'm trying to edit a page but the required access are for Users.

Can I be a user.

Thanks.

Elsa · Aug 30th 2018, 10:44pm

Rolu wrote:

Hi @Bogul

I'm trying to edit a page but the required access are for Users.

Can I be a user.

Thanks.

You can log into the wiki with the same credentials that you use to log into this forum.

Into the "Username" field, enter your email address and in the "Password" field, your password.

Rolu · Aug 31st 2018, 12:50am

Elsa wrote:

Rolu wrote:

Hi @Bogul

I'm trying to edit a page but the required access are for Users.

Can I be a user.

Thanks.

You can log into the wiki with the same credentials that you use to log into this forum.
Into the "Username" field, enter your email address and in the "Password" field, your password.

- edit: im just an idiot who cant read -

ZaZii · Sep 1st 2018, 1:34pm

Dero wrote:

Hey Guys,

as I got sick of my usual task yesterday evening I put in a couple of minutes to improve the way you can retrieve item icons from our services. Now you don't need to know our internal item names anymore but can use the ingame item name for it. For the "T4_ARMOR_LEATHER_SET2" this would be <aoitem>Adept's Hunter Jacket</aoitem>.

By default those item names will be interpreted as english. If you do now know the english item name you can use it from any other language by specifying the language as attribute. In german for example it would be <aoitem language="de">Jägerjacke des Adepten</aoitem>. Valid language codes are en, de, ru, pl, pt, fr and es.

Please note that any typo will result in the icon not being found. The same goes for capitalization. So write it exactly as it is in the client.

Bonus: I also added a new tag for spells. With <aospell>Aggressive Caster</aospell> you will get the icon for the Aggressive Caster spell. Just like <aoitem/> it takes size and language as attributes.

I created a sample list of the different attributes and values you can use on my personal page in the wiki. So if you need an example, check here: wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/User:Dero

Best regards,
Dero

Yo,

next time you get bored, can you take a look at the layers of those fancy new pictures?
It seems like the enchantment is layered above the quality (in-game the quality is on top of enchantment)

Edit:
Oh, and those links are a bit too broken for your forums^^ Can't use those as images in here, or even as actual links
gameinfo.albiononline.com/api/gameinfo/items/Elder's Blazing Staff@3.png?quality=4

PudimAzul · Sep 1st 2018, 4:00pm

Like I said last week, I just updated farming page (wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Farming), with an updated tables and little explanations for seed yield bonus and offspring yield bonus for all animals and crops. And than changed the link from mounts page.

This page still need some data for eggs, milks, daily nutrition needed for each animal and link for each item listed there.

Bogul · Sep 2nd 2018, 9:06am

I think the design by @FriendlyFire is pretty good for the weapons page, lets try to improve that a bit and then copy that to the other weapon types.

Opinions?

Imo its straight forward and simple, which is good

wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Pyromancer

Things I see missing from the design is a place to put iterm-stats, for theorycrafting purposes. But maybe such a table already exists somewhere and we can just copy & paste it over?

~~Also the table needs a bit of moving around, becasue if you have a large table the desciptions are hard to see. I'll add some of the missing icons first.. lets see..~~

edit: i updated the design a bit and added icons

The problem is, that this design kills all the redirects I made, like this one:

wiki.albiononline.com/index.php?title=Fire_Staff&redirect=no

So, I added the sub-pages again. We can use those for detailed item stats.

The point of the Pyromancer page is to have all spell names (fire staff spells) & item names (fire staffs) re-direct to here, so they are searchable on the wiki, but we don't have to deal with 50++ pages.

Bogul · Sep 2nd 2018, 12:53pm

I found this while browsing and wanted to leave it here for reference:

tablesgenerator.com/mediawiki_tables

~~I'm still trying to fix the tables for the weapons page... if you have suggestions lmk~~

Bogul · Sep 2nd 2018, 1:30pm

One thing I was wondering about is, if SBI uses a special color scheme to highlight certain skills / slot abitites.. ? @Retroman

For example: Q-slot always has a blue background, W-slot always green. If not, why not?

If you do, could you tell me the hex-colors?

(example use: wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Pyromancer#Q_Abiliy_Slot)

FriendlyFire · Sep 2nd 2018, 5:36pm

Bogul wrote:

I think the design by @FriendlyFire is pretty good for the weapons page, lets try to improve that a bit and then copy that to the other weapon types.

Opinions?

Imo its straight forward and simple, which is good

Thanks! Yeah my goal was to get the core information (the spells of all the weapons) up top and easy to look through. Always can put more details and stuff down below. Things like auto attack damage and weight are clearly less important. Thanks for helping clean it up and do icons and stuff. I have no idea what I'm doing with regards to wiki-editing.

Is there some smart way to copy pages around? Or do you just go to the source and ctrl-c ctrl-v?

Also: For strategy/tips I think it should be focused on the very basics and avoid information about "meta" builds. This would be for beginners only.

Dero · Sep 3rd 2018, 9:17am

ZaZii wrote:

Yo,
next time you get bored, can you take a look at the layers of those fancy new pictures?
It seems like the enchantment is layered above the quality (in-game the quality is on top of enchantment)

Edit:
Oh, and those links are a bit too broken for your forums^^ Can't use those as images in here, or even as actual links
gameinfo.albiononline.com/api/gameinfo/items/Elder's Blazing Staff@3.png?quality=4

Hi @ZaZii,

thanks for the info on the rendering. I put it into our backlog. Probably won't take long until we can fix this as it is a minor thing to do.

Regarding the links the problem most likely are the spaces within the URL. The forum software tries to identify links to web addresses and email addresses automatically and stops when it sees a "non-url character" such as whitespaces. You can fix this by
* either looking into the BB-Code view and put the ... tags in the right place
* or using the 'link' button in the editor and enter the whole URL there

You could also replace all non-valid characters with the HTML encoded value (e.g. a space would be %20), but that would be a hassle I think.

Here an example on how it looks with proper tags in the forums for a link:

Source Code

[url]https://gameinfo.albiononline.com/api/gameinfo/items/Elder's Blazing Staff@3.png?quality=4[/url]

gameinfo.albiononline.com/api/…ing Staff@3.png?quality=4

For Images the forum parses the URL in a different way it seems dropping anything with non URL valid characters. So there you really would need to encode everything properly in order to display them. Probably there it would be easier to identify the in-game unique item name and use this one for it (you can use albiononline2d.com to find those names).

Anyway with all characters encoded it works. See this

Source Code

[img]https://gameinfo.albiononline.com/api/gameinfo/items/Elder%27s%20Blazing%20Staff@3.png?quality=4[/img]

Bogul · Sep 4th 2018, 8:09am

@Vexal you edited the Hammer / Hammers pages. The point of those redirects was to link all different names to the main page which is: "Hammer Fighter" (as called on the destiny board).

I've moved most of your information over to: wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Hammer_Fighter and put the redirects back in.

The intended design for those weapon family pages is similar to this one: wiki.albiononline.com/wiki/Pyromancer

But the design needs a bit more work before we can move it over to all other weapon categories.

H4n1baL · Sep 4th 2018, 12:59pm

@Bogul

There's only a rough color coding for the different kinds of spells (nature in green, holy in white/gold etc.). If we added a code for the slots it would probably look messy in most cases. Currently the background is simply fitting to the icon color itself.

- Lino

Grimhawke-EB · Sep 4th 2018, 8:49pm

When completing pages for weapons, how do we want to standardize what stats to display? IE on elsa's item and skills spreadsheet, I believe all damage values are based on flat 8 gear with no mastery/specialization.

FriendlyFire · Sep 4th 2018, 11:25pm

Grimhawke-EB wrote:

When completing pages for weapons, how do we want to standardize what stats to display? IE on elsa's item and skills spreadsheet, I believe all damage values are based on flat 8 gear with no mastery/specialization.

I think we should just copy the spreadsheet and use 1060 IP. Keeps it standard, the data is available, and it's a reasonably average value for IP.

Bogul · Sep 5th 2018, 3:20am

H4n1baL wrote:

@Bogul

There's only a rough color coding for the different kinds of spells (nature in green, holy in white/gold etc.). If we added a code for the slots it would probably look messy in most cases. Currently the background is simply fitting to the icon color itself.

- Lino

good to know, thanks

I assumed that if you had fancy colors it would overload the UI potentially.

In that case I'm open to color coding suggestions for the tables :>

Bogul · Sep 5th 2018, 3:42am

My apologies for the late publication of this weeks 750-gold-code winners, ~~but I'm still waiting on the keys from @Evoque before I can send them out.~~

~~As soon as I have them, I'll forward them to you.~~

Edit: All sent out now!

This weeks (27th - 2nd) winners:

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