BeepBoopImBob/Shorty is here to explain

  • Akasha wrote:

    Lets be real here. You didn't kick me specifically. You kicked 70 people, and started inviting people back but I wanted no part of that so didn't ask about the situation. Was one of the worst mismanaged guilds I've seen in 15 years. That is not coming from a place of anger , but a complete unadulterated truth. I was mostly silent the entire time I was with guild and just made mounts for you guys repeatedly. Hundreds of them. You make it out like I did something wrong by having 2 direwolves and Lizzys piglet? They were direwolves that were returned resources from crafting previous direwolves that I had not arranged an escort to get them back to dauntensea yet, and lizzys direboar piglet she asked me to raise for her. Like I raised several for BC members throughout the time.

    I personally was over BC within a week of launch after seeing the mistakes made back to back to back , and the attitude expressed towards its members. Every single day it was do this or kicked, which is a terrible way to manage people. However I was there with a group and didn't want to make decisions for the group so I remained silent. Three times in one week officers pulled me aside to ask me if I was happy, if everything was going good, what could be done differently, and told how much they valued me and wanted me to remain with BC. At least 90 minutes of 1 on 1 talks with me to make sure I wasn't going to leave. Being straight up asked to not leave by officers including shorty if I was unhappy and to come to them so they could fix things in guild. I agreed to help turn that shitshow of a guild around with advice and such. I was even hinted at by gwandir that BC needed more NA officers etc.

    So do not represent it differently. What you guys did was set up a huge number of people and players for failure from the get go, and then make a split in a way that would completely fuck them over and keep them from being able to further play without major trouble. You did not allow people to have more than 1 set of gear to their names. Donate everything else. Then made them push for an amount of gathering mats donated, that the officers themselves didnt reach. Lead by example, not by demands. As soon as that deadline hit, you removed 70ish people. It is blatantly clear , especially by officers not making the demanded goal , that the plan was simply to have 70 people fund 15 for the rest of the beta. Without a single concern about how that would affect those people. One of the most dastardly moves Ive seen in all of my gaming time. This attitude was also blatantly apparent in the BC rip thread after this all happened, when both Finnstack Leadership and BC leadership talked shit to the people they just fucked over. Laxist posting rick rolled videos , and Rexi calling people scrubs and telling them to fuck off basically. That attitude was prevalent because Finnstack and BC felt they held all the cards *resources* and those other people could just get fucked. Unfortunately for them, their management is so incredibly bad they didnt realize that one of the people they invited back was in a package deal. Something that was well documented in both the aps and many conversations in guildmeetings and with officers. So yes, one of the people who they let back into BC was there soley to make things right. His original plan was to be Robin Hood, and return everything to all the 70ish people who farmed it all. To set the Karmic scales right. To be the Hero that Albion needs, and the one that BlackStack deserved. Unfortunately,
    it took way longer than expected I guess to do and it became apparent the gig was up and as soon as an officer was on it would be stopped. So the materials were not taken out of RWC. They are in the AH completed buy tab. So whichever guild that player joins will have a territory worth easily 125-150 million silver to take. Red Water Cove is now officially the most valuable territory in the game to take control of to access that AH.

    As far as other ways to approach the situation as Retaliate said, no it was beyond that point. That point was before they kicked and stole from those people. That point was when they could of respectfully restructured and made sure that they werent crippling 70 players. They crossed that point. Homeboy didnt. This post is a last ditch effort to get some mercy from Bercilak since he had been outted again as being the banned player. This post cost him nothing and is completely insincere. The mass kick was done after a rageout. It was a terrible disrespectful selfish way to go about things, and karma reaped what it sowed. To turn this tables on the other guy simple for evening the field and leaving both sides in the same position is slanted , horrible logic, and completely political spin doctoring. Its unfortunate that he wasnt able to get the stuff out and return it to those players but at least niether side will benefit off the labors of others, and everyone will move forward based on their own abilities and not a scam of the other side.

    This was the best possible result to happen if you were completely objective about the situation. This was pure Karmic balance.
    I will be banned in a second so i will make this quick.

    1. tride was the single officer that didnt get 1 mil on a single account but more than 1 mill on his accounts combined.
    2. I also slacked but only played a week and only got to 400k true correct.
    3. Our intention was never to purge but it had to happen unfortunately you guys broke me the day after deadline. which is why you think we needed sheeps. You might think that but you dont know how many old people we kicked so yeah get facts straght bro i had no ill intentions never had.
    4. Why would i want to even kick that many people it wouldnt benefit me whatsoever, just too much bullshit in the guild to fix pretty simple.
  • I had him take? I simply think it was the right thing to do. I don't control anyone. Ill be clear though, if I could of , I would of, though I think I would of had it planned a bit better and gotten the stuff out , made a video of it, and returned it all to the people that it belonged to. I dont even know what got taken tbh, I just know the total value number. That other "innocent" guild :

    A) had leaders talking shit and taunting in the seperation thread before this event occured

    B) claim themselves that this "would only take a day to recover from"

    C) Planned to gank people coming out with resources. Whether they want to claim posthumously that it was just a joke or not, it was said.

    Finns were by no means innocent. BC was mainly to blame though. And since Finns said themselves its not a big deal, they can replace it in a day, etc etc... Im forced to take them at their word that they were not overly affected by this, but BC was. So again, the perfect resolution. You were one of the people who were going to get your share back had it been successfully extracted out of RWC. I am sure your tune would of been different , nor would you of turned
    the money down had it worked out that way. You are a good player, and Ive got nothing against you, but be real.

    Re: Shorty

    I honestly hope you arent banned. Im never for banning non hacking players. So good luck with that. Also I didnt break you at all. I was at work for 3 days. Last day I played was the guild meeting, then I come back and all this shitshow shit happened, and I was disgusted by it. I felt like a fool. After the guild meeting I was telling myself, give it a chance, they are working to make things better. 70 people didnt break you, a couple people upset you and you made an emotional decision, something young people are apt to do, and screwed over a ton of people. Thats not good leadership man. Learn from it. Deal with individuals. And if you want to deal with the group as a whole, dont do it when you are emotionally driven, and do it a way that is respectful and amicable. This was handled extremely poorly by BC and you know it, as does everyone else. So it can come to no surprise when something in kind happens to you. I think everyone you wanted to cut would understand and not go away hateful if you just handled it like an adult from the start. But maybe this will be a learning point and your next attempt at a guild will be managed better, and more respectful and ultimately more sucessful. Good luck to you!
  • Akasha wrote:

    I had him take? I simply think it was the right thing to do. I don't control anyone. Ill be clear though, if I could of , I would of, though I think I would of had it planned a bit better and gotten the stuff out , made a video of it, and returned it all to the people that it belonged to. I dont even know what got taken tbh, I just know the total value number. That other "innocent" guild :

    A) had leaders talking shit and taunting in the seperation thread before this event occured

    B) claim themselves that this "would only take a day to recover from"

    C) Planned to gank people coming out with resources. Whether they want to claim posthumously that it was just a joke or not, it was said.

    Finns were by no means innocent. BC was mainly to blame though. And since Finns said themselves its not a big deal, they can replace it in a day, etc etc... Im forced to take them at their word that they were not overly affected by this, but BC was. So again, the perfect resolution. You were one of the people who were going to get your share back had it been successfully extracted out of RWC. I am sure your tune would of been different , nor would you of turned
    the money down had it worked out that way. You are a good player, and Ive got nothing against you, but be real.
    Drothhh has already messaged me trying to give me silver for " reperations" before this was even said and I had told him I didnt want anything from him, why would I want items stolen from others. Yeah the situation was kinda shit but at the time I was in the guild I was contributing to it just because that ended doesn't mean I am going to try and get everything I contributed back, life doesn't work that way there is a reason robin hood is a fairy tale. gyazo.com/db6a4efb273eebf294c899077782d6fb
  • I mean you built your entire bankroll on scamming people. That was your deal. So why would this be something you are against? When it was Karmically warranted. And you were someone who was proud of scamming complete innocents. I mean those are your own words. Im not bagging on you unless you bag on yourself. Countless times in TS "hahah just scammed this guy for 50k". So please step off that soapbox before it crashes to the ground and you hurt yourself=( But thanks for posting a screenshot proving that he was in fact trying to give it all back to people and not be a thief himself. Good Guy Retaliate here with the evidence!
  • Akasha wrote:

    I mean you built your entire bankroll on scamming people. That was your deal. So why would this be something you are against? When it was Karmically warranted. And you were someone who was proud of scamming complete innocents. I mean those are your own words. Im not bagging on you unless you bag on yourself. Countless times in TS "hahah just scammed this guy for 50k". So please step off that soapbox before it crashes to the ground and you hurt yourself=( But thanks for posting a screenshot proving that he was in fact trying to give it all back to people and not be a thief himself. Good Guy Retaliate here with the evidence!
    Yeah I knocked people out of duels for money, and got people to duel me big but that is like Luring on Runescape, I wasn't being a dirty rat and infiltrating an alliance's auction house trying to steal there resources. If you accept a duel you are ready to lose the money you bet, If you invite someone to a guild you don't expect them to raid your entire alliance's auction house.
  • Honestly all this karma bullshit that is said here is ridiculous. We were in Black Cocks, some of us worked hard in there others have not. We had many arguments and trashtalking within the guild, also a lot of slacking from several people + the lost GvGs and all this has built up a lot amount of stress within the guild, this resulted in people rioting against leadership and the status of Black Cocks

    There was an obvious absence of leadership but does not justify people slacking, or not trying to improve things and that's where we all failed. A lot of casual-minded people were invited into Black Cocks it was definitely in a bad shape and I even agree that a drastic change like this had to happen. I just disagree how it was done.

    I was not there, something happened in-game and on TS between the officers and all I saw was getting banned from TS and kicked from the guild. I obviously felt bad and confused about it, but I was told I should wait until they sort things out, so I waited patiently. Now, I asked what really happened but, a lot others started panicking and shit-talking immediately in-game instead, without probably asking any questions. It was a complete mess, you could clearly see how desperate people were.

    I was basically told the guild is reinviting people who they think fits in the guild, I was declined for the reasons I have stated before on this post, and I accepted it. I did not rage, nor did I started trashtalking anywhere and I think I have been definitely active and have done my part to contribute to the guild, more than a lot other people did. I moved on. Shit happens in life.

    I did not rage about the items I had in my chest, I accepted that everything I have owned was basically the alliance's property since that was one of the rules of the guild.

    Now I have buddies who did the same, and I don't hear them doing shit, other than maybe having a few negative words for BC, out of dissapointment. All of you could have done the same and start repairing the damage you have been caused and continue playing like some of us did instead you have decide to go on a crusade of revenge which is just as much pathetic and disgusting, especially because of what was done to Finstack, the guild that pretty much carried most of us for this beta. Let's be honest about it, no one knew shit about how the market really worked or how much effort was put into it. And no one gave a damn respect for it.

    Everyone feels so high of himself about revealing the world how bad Black Cocks were and shit and think you guys are heroes. You guys fucked over a whole other guild ( Finstack ) and it's members ( 100 people as I know ) and also with your whole trashtalking you are giving bad reputation to all the people who have been kicked out of Black Cocks. None of us likes what happened, but it happened. All you are doing shows you have absolutely no dignity.

    If you are talking about karma and bullshit. Emptying the market was a pure hateful thing, and you approve of it. You should look out for karma then.

    EDIT: I just feel ashamed that in the future, people might connect me to some of you, just because we were kicked at the same time
    Retired from Albion Online.

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  • I hope you are not talking to me because not only did I not rage at being kicked, im infinitely more "h4rdc0re" than you were.

    I am 6.2 weapons 5.3 armor on a character started 2 weeks ago. I have a private island that is t6ed out. I make t7 mounts. I craft 5.3 gear. I refine multiple mats at t5. I have more fame on both my characters than you do on your one.
    And I come from the hardest core pvp game ever created Darkfall that makes this green/yellow zone game look like UO Trammel. You must be on the same soapbox that retaliate was standing on, careful it can't support the weight of too much more bullshit.
  • Akasha wrote:

    and conversely, when you join a guild and are told you cannot own anything , and that you need to gather X large amount by X day and turn it all in, you expect that guild to look out for your interests if you follow those guidelines and meet those requirements. Do you not?
    You keep going back to that "1m gathering fame" -plan pretending like 1m fame is actually a massive number to begin with. If you look at top 500 gathering fame right now, JohnnyNuchter is the only ex-BC who makes the cut, while there is 3 BC and 18 Finstack members in top 500. You can make top 500 with around 2,5m fame currently so it's not like we are talking about a massive amount of work either.

    Yeah, it sucks that BC messed up their own economy, but I find it weird that Finstack is getting so much **** here. All we did was accept BC into our economy circle after they messed up their own. When some of our leadership started complaining about BC slacking on gathering and spending most of their days losing gear on pvp, we were 50m gathering fame ahead of you guys without even counting Annagamings' fame at all, and that is with slightly smaller roster than what BC had.

    Sure, BC bringing in resources might have given us a slight boost in progress, but that came with tons of additional drama for our leadership to deal with and much heavier demand on gear (with lower supply of resources) for our drafters to juggle with. Hell, odds are that those same people who kept stealing gear were also selling the resources they gathered anyway so even that gathering fame might actually be misleading. Unless I got it wrong BC never had a high silver tax to begin with and there are very few things to actually spend it on outside of transmutes (which we were taking care of anyway), so I don't get why people felt like they had to steal, hoard and sell the gear like they did.

    Basically this whole "Robin Hood" -bs is just silly. First bunch of ex-BC hoards and sells stuff they didn't gather the resources for to begin with, then BC drama happens, and then you steal more stuff from Finstack because thanks to whatever drama BC was having denied you the access to all that gear you weren't supposed to be hoarding in the first place. It has been a while since I've read or watched Robin Hood, but I can't recall a part where Robin first robs his band of merry men, hides the loot, then torches their camp because he was denied access to that stolen loot. The sad part was that it all happened just shortly before ex-cocks were supposed to be given access to their chests in our territories aswell to recover whatever gear was left behind, so it's not like torching our AH helped them either.

    Personally I am sad for the BC members who actually pulled their weight and didn't cause any drama, but ended up getting caught in the crossfire. JohnnyNuchter specificly was both fun to pvp with and he was also the #1 BC in gathering fame, was sad to see him removed from the roster.
  • Akasha wrote:

    I hope you are not talking to me because not only did I not rage at being kicked, im infinitely more "h4rdc0re" than you were.

    I am 6.2 weapons 5.3 armor on a character started 2 weeks ago. I have a private island that is t6ed out. I make t7 mounts. I craft 5.3 gear. I refine multiple mats at t5. I have more fame on both my characters than you do on your one.
    And I come from the hardest core pvp game ever created Darkfall that makes this green/yellow zone game look like UO Trammel. You must be on the same soapbox that retaliate was standing on, careful it can't support the weight of too much more bullshit.

    Nice, a Darkfail gimp.
  • @BeepBoopImBob , respect for posting this and be honest. I feel kinda bad for what happend to BC and i enjoyed my stay in there. I've learned a lot of things about the game and i met alot of cool people. I'm sorry if i ask, but am I right if i say i'm the X in your story? But i have to say i didnt go nuts in there , lol, i just felt kinda annoyed, but you went like "go leave the guild then if you dont like it", but i guess you guys were already in some kinda discussion while i asked this. So i dont mind.

    @Nylonbeat , thanks *blush*


    - Peace & live the high life!
  • Akasha wrote:

    I hope you are not talking to me because not only did I not rage at being kicked, im infinitely more "h4rdc0re" than you were.

    I am 6.2 weapons 5.3 armor on a character started 2 weeks ago. I have a private island that is t6ed out. I make t7 mounts. I craft 5.3 gear. I refine multiple mats at t5. I have more fame on both my characters than you do on your one.
    And I come from the hardest core pvp game ever created Darkfall that makes this green/yellow zone game look like UO Trammel. You must be on the same soapbox that retaliate was standing on, careful it can't support the weight of too much more bullshit.
    I know for a fact that you have spent a lot of time into making mounts, using 9 island etc.
    Although I must say it seems pathetic to claim that you're hardcore, and Hazmy or Retaliate aren't.

    What if I told you I am wearing full 5.3 on my 2-week old character, can refine T8 stone on my T7 stone gatherer, and got enough stones for our new guild to make T8 buildings?
    It doesn't matter.

    I would like to see what your definition of hardcore is.

    -
    I enjoyed playing with you, and I'm grateful for you having raised my forever lost direwolf (fuck you XTeam =3), but the way you act on the forums surprises me.
    My suggestion would be to keep away from BC topics, and calm down.
  • JaGGeR wrote:

    translate to Russian pls
    Привет там, кажется, много разговоров обо мне на форумах и в игре, так что я буду выходить и решать это сейчас. Этот персонаж по имени BeepBoopImBob действительно играется мной АКА Коротышка.

    Право до начала игры я был вовлечен в некоторых неблагополучных действий, которые были в комплекте и совершенно глупо на моем имени и за которые я искренне прошу прощения за. Я уже извинился и был принятQueenVirgo, и, прежде всего я искренне сожалею, что я оскорбилBercilak С.И., и я надеюсь, что они дадут мне второй шанс, хотя я понимаю, почему они не будут, если что воля быть их окончательное решение.

    Я люблю свою игру и я нравится играть его с моими друзьями. И я надеюсь, что вы позволите мне продолжать играть и помочь сделать сообщество лучше. Но я не хочу, чтобы это сделать, лежа и будучи "под прикрытием" больше, неделю я сделал игра была очень грубой того, чтобы быть Hush Hush обо всем, а что нет.

    Так я признав, кто я и положить себе милости ТвоейBercilak


    Теперь вернемся к вопросу о том, что происходит в до н.э., и что заставило меня принять решение я сделал, так как я не вижу никаких реальных ответов на том, как вещи пошли вниз, а также много парней, которые угадать, что пошел.


    Поэтому в первую очередь я бы каждый день в TS для альфа, но играл только с последнего воскресенья сезам сих пор. так бой неделю и полтора. Я слышал МНОГО вопросов, которые я не мог взять в руки, видя, как я не был в игре, и решение я бы, возможно, не было надлежащего на том деле, что было бы логистика и личное мнение, не видя / воспроизведения с Ребята, которые были бы в вопросе.

    Когда я вернулся и начал играть я слышал много проблем и много людей времени будет играть в малых группах и обратно говорить гильдии и их лидеров, который раздражает меня, как я очень сильно постараться, когда я на самом деле есть.

    Так один из офицеров поставили перед собой цель в течение 1 миллиона собрать известность, что было обусловлено в течение 4-6 дней после этого был сделан звонок. Также возражаете, я напомню, это было 3 недели в игре. Это вызвало огромные проблемы. Alot ныть и fingerpointing особенно к нашим лидерам некоторые, кто не сделал это, я включаются. Я штепсельных верно, но я чувствовал, что это было более важным становится сам до шестерни Гильдия на чем сельское хозяйство в то же время, и вот что я сделал, и все-таки удалось получить 400K сбор известность. Достаточно того, что.

    Длинная история короче, люди скулил и хныкал и скулил и вчера я получил достаточно. Рекрут сказал X о чем-то, и я сказал ему нет. Он получил супер ярость и сказал, что это был отсталый решение. И я сказал ему: "Dont как это оставить, то я не забочусь ТБХ." А потом он начал уходить. Я получил сообщения в шепотом говоря "йо холод с этой вещи иначе они могли бы пойти супер агрессивную и RIP Finstack Ах", и люди в чате гильдии начали ходить "черные петухи девиз" Не, как это оставить "" и т.д. и т.п. ловишь дрейф. Так я сказал мои офицеры им жаль, что это не гильдия Моя гильдия больше. Им ухода и я желаю всем вам GL. Вскоре послеLaxist последовало. Затем мы держали сидя в ТС и говорили в течение часа или двух, потому что мои сотрудники сказали, что если я уехали, мы бы рухнуть, потому что у нас не было лидерство, и никто не хотел вести его либо. И я сказал им, что происходит извините, но я не хочу крови на моих руках. Я бы скорее покинуть гильдию и воссоздать, чем ногами пользователей я чувствую не подходят 1 на 1 и получать супер ненавидят много парней. Мы продолжали спорить, и я дал им ультиматум.

    Либо я уйти и делать собственные, или я вернусь и я удар все и медленно пригласить людей обратно я хотел. Они согласились на это, и мы начали пинать всех от TeamSpeak и игры, медленно возвращая в людей.

    Но, как я сделал это много людей думали, что они ушли навсегда. И некоторые люди начали получать супер супер ума. Меня вызвали кучу вещей и сделал threaths ко мне, не важная персона я могу справиться с этим не делает мне больно. Это забавляло меня, как 30+ летний парни говорят и действуют, как они сделали, но вот еще один рассказ.

    Таким образом, куча парней я хотел вернуть в первым дерьмо говорить, и что показал мне свои истинные цвета которым меня печально. Но не менее. Мы получили приличную группу Собирается и наша договоренность с ребрами было прекрасно, а также. Мы разговаривал сWhated и сказал, что мы не забочусь погоду или не другие ребята получают их обратно передач, видя, как они не должны иметь вещи в там, но если вы хотите, чтобы открыть его для них я не имею никаких обид бы то ни было.

    То, что мы не знаем, мы принесли в что мы думали, был холод чувак называется Drothh. Он был лучшим другомAkasha парень, которого мы выгнали из гильдии. Акаша хотел, чтобы добраться до банка, потому что он хранится 2 direbears и direboar поросенка (не давая гильдии точно знать, что мы не хотим чтобы это произошло)Whated, который был в нашей ТС охлаждения и говорить шутит мы должны убить его и забрать его после он получает ее из банка. Это где я думаю, Drothh вратаря поймать сарказм, и это "срабатывает" его и сделал его ясно из большинства finstack аукционного дома в то время как наши собственные лидеры была АФК.

    Я искренне apolgogize в Finstack доказывая их прямо снова, что им союз с людьми, не хорошо и закончится только в недостаточности. Я извиняюсь за то, что сделал для меня назначенные, и я взять всю вину за действия, которые происходили. Может вы преобладают больше, чем я сделал!


    Это было об этом. Я не хочу, чтобы мои члены гильдии страдать от меня запретили, и никто еще хочет, чтобы привести. Так я сказал им, что они должны разделить и присоединиться к другой гильдии, если я не могу играть, не будучи под прикрытием.

    Это я подвергая себя и проясним некоторые вещи. Если я получить запретили так что это был хороший пробег я будет ушли навсегда, еслиBercilak решит иначе я обязательно понравится его и поблагодарить его много.

    Последний, но тем не менее важный. Члены, которые я сделал в конечном итоге ногами и взяли его по я приветствую вас, и я надеюсь вы идете на веселый путь к большей победы, чем я привел вас к.