Maybe you should see an optometrist then.
The veteran symbol is a single sword. The elite symbol is comprised of two crossed swords. You can see it above any city guard
All elite mobs in the game are lethal.
Disclaimer: I exclusively solo and have little to no clue about group-related content in the game. I'm just trying to clear up the confusion, which many seem to face
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Normal mobs, veteran mobs and elite mobs.
I don't know the difference in icons between a veteran and elite, except for their avatar portrait.
But you will definitely die in a red zone or black zone, if you die to a elite.
They did how ever change it so you only get knocked down by veterans, even in black zones.
I don't think any bosses in grottos are elites, especially not in the new blue dungeon portals. I've died to the axe-man on the eastern side in it, and Old Athos at the end, a few times, but only got knocked down.