Guild Island Access After Account Bans

    • Guild Island Access After Account Bans

      Recently, a close friend of mine, who was a guild master, experienced an account ban. While I had access to the guild island prior to his ban, I am now unable to retrieve my items from that island. I want to clarify that I am not requesting access to my friend's account; instead, I wish to retrieve my own belongings that were stored on the guild island.

      In light of this, I'd like to propose a suggestion: consider allowing players to retain access to guild islands even after their accounts have been banned. When a guild master's account is banned, the guild often becomes inactive, leaving players who have stored their belongings on the island unable to retrieve them. This can be a source of significant frustration and loss.

      By permitting continued access to guild islands for players who had access before the account ban, you would alleviate these frustrations and provide a more positive experience for those affected by such situations. This adjustment would not compromise the integrity of the game or breach any privacy concerns, as it does not involve granting access to the banned account itself.

      I understand the complexities involved in game mechanics and policies, but I believe that such a change could be beneficial for the community, offering players a fair way to retrieve their items while not undermining the consequences of account bans.

      Thank you for taking the time to consider my suggestion. I look forward to your thoughts on this matter and any insights you can provide.
    • By storing your items on a guild island you are trusting the guild master.

      You trust them that they:
      • Do not revoke access to your items
      • Do not steal your items
      • Do not let you lose access to the island another way, by getting banned
      So if you can help it, I wouldn't store any more items than needed and more than you can afford to lose in case that trust is broken.

      In this case the trust is broken.

      I do not know which kind of ban happened to your guild master, but in the case of certain bans (3rd party gold buying/selling or botting) I understand why all of their stuff, including islands with ill-gotten goods, would be removed.

      Maybe support could help retrieve your stuf, but I would guess it's hard to tell which of it is yours and which belonged to others like the guild master.

      Sorry about your stuff.

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    • Thank you for sharing your perspective and insights on this matter. I absolutely understand the significance of trust when storing items on a guild island and the implications of certain types of account bans. It's unfortunate that in my case, the trust was indeed broken due to my friend's account ban.

      While I comprehend the need for accountability and measures against ill-gotten goods, I believe there might be room for improvement in addressing scenarios like this. The proposal I put forth isn't meant to bypass any consequences of account bans or undermine the game's integrity. Rather, it's an attempt to find a middle ground where players who had access to guild islands before the ban could retrieve their own legitimate belongings.

      The frustration that arises from losing access to items due to circumstances beyond our control can have a significant impact on the overall player experience. I believe that by allowing access to guild islands for the purpose of retrieving personal belongings under such circumstances, the game could provide a more positive outcome for players without compromising its principles.

      Once again, I appreciate your insights and understanding. This discussion helps shed light on the complexities of the issue and the perspectives of the player community. Let's continue to explore ways to enhance the game for all players while maintaining a fair and balanced environment.
    • "Maybe support could help retrieve your stuf, but I would guess it's hard to tell which of it is yours and which belonged to others like the guild master."

      I value your input and understand the complexity of item retrieval in these situations. While the process of support retrieving individual items could indeed be intricate, I also see the merit in finding a more comprehensive solution that addresses the broader issue.

      My suggestion of maintaining access to guild islands even after an account ban aims to tackle this dilemma. It's true that bans are often beyond our control and sometimes affect players who have done nothing wrong themselves. In such cases, the collective loss of all items on the guild island can be disheartening.

      I wholeheartedly agree with your point about differentiating between players' items and those belonging to the banned guild master. The presence of private chests and controlled access on guild islands does indeed provide a clear way to differentiate ownership.

      Ultimately, my suggestion isn't just about retrieving specific items, but about enabling a fair solution for players who find themselves in these situations. Allowing continued access to the guild island ensures that legitimate players aren't unfairly impacted by circumstances beyond their control.

      Thank you for engaging in this discussion, and for your thoughtful insights.
    • Thank you for bringing up the change in the way I've referred to the situation. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. To clarify, the situation involves my alt character's guild island, and the reason I mentioned 'friend's island' was to highlight the broader issue many players face in such cases.

      I appreciate your attention to detail and apologize for any inconsistencies. My main goal remains to discuss the possibility of accessing guild islands under specific circumstances, to ensure a fair outcome for all players.

      Thank you for engaging in this conversation and for your understanding.
    • I appreciate your questions and your interest in understanding the situation better. I want to provide some clarification to address your points.

      You're correct that my alt character's account was banned, which raised the initial concern. As for my other characters, they did not receive a ban because they were not involved in the actions that led to the ban. It's worth mentioning that alts also have the right to have guild islands, but that's not the main focus of this suggestion.

      The issue I'm discussing pertains to accessing a guild island where I had stored items under my alt's character. I understand your inquiry about retaining access to items after a ban. It's important to note that the suggestion to retain access to a guild island doesn't pertain to the character that received the ban. Instead, it's about allowing players who had access to that island before the ban to retrieve their own legitimate belongings.

      I believe that exploring ways to address such situations can help ensure a more equitable outcome for players who have invested time and effort into their items. Your questions are valid and highlight the complexity of the topic, and I appreciate your engagement in this discussion.
    • I want to clarify that I did make an effort to reach out to support regarding my alt's situation, emphasizing that no wrongdoing was involved. However, after seeking information about cases of unbanning, it became evident that the likelihood of success is quite limited. In light of this realization, I am putting forward the suggestion for improvement that we've been discussing.

      Rather than focusing solely on attempting to reverse an account ban, which is known to have a low success rate, I believe that channeling efforts into enhancing gameplay through suggestions like the one I've proposed could yield more tangible benefits for the player community. This suggestion is intended to create a more equitable and enjoyable experience for players who have faced similar challenges.
    • While I appreciate your interest in the details of the ban, I'd like to steer our conversation toward the suggestion I've put forward regarding accessing guild islands after account bans. Is it really a crucial point for our discussion? My aim is to collectively explore solutions that benefit the player community and enhance the gameplay experience.
    • It seems you've got a handful of queries there! To answer your first one, steering the conversation can be about keeping things respectful and positive. Now, as for 'mule,' it's just a term folks use for secondary accounts, and I assure you no offense was intended. And 'Round Table'? Not on my radar at all.

      Regarding crafting or secondary accounts, absolutely! Having an alt account can be a smart strategy for specialized tasks like crafting. It's like having your own team of experts. Do you happen to have any experience with this kind of gaming approach?
    • Lf520 wrote:

      You're correct that my alt character's account was banned, which raised the initial concern. As for my other characters, they did not receive a ban because they were not involved in the actions that led to the ban
      Your characters dont cheat ... YOU do.

      Personally I'd have banned all of your accounts ... you're the cheat. Zero reason you should get anything back.
      Midgard
      T8 Fibre, Ore, Hide, Wood & Stone Gatherer
      T8 Gathering Gear Crafter
      T8 Bags & Capes Crafter
    • Wow, you've really got some strong opinions there! But I'm genuinely curious, are you saying you're in charge of all bans? As for the term 'cheat,' could you elaborate? I wasn't even aware of cheats in Albion Online. I'd love to understand more about this from your perspective.
    • Lf520 wrote:

      Wow, you've really got some strong opinions there! But I'm genuinely curious, are you saying you're in charge of all bans? As for the term 'cheat,' could you elaborate? I wasn't even aware of cheats in Albion Online. I'd love to understand more about this from your perspective.
      I wouldn't say strong opinions, more very clear cut.

      When did I say or imply I'm 'in charge' of all bans? I said 'personally' which implies an opinion.

      "cheat" implies wilful breaking of the Terms of Service. You wouldn't have been banned if you hadn't, ergo, you cheated.
      Midgard
      T8 Fibre, Ore, Hide, Wood & Stone Gatherer
      T8 Gathering Gear Crafter
      T8 Bags & Capes Crafter

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