Re: Nerf static dungeons for solo players

    • Re: Nerf static dungeons for solo players

      Yaakz wrote:

      Yep, agree

      Just check the numbers of this guy
      doing solo static in yellow zone:


      Swolebenji is good at faking numbers but this is some next level video, lol. Wasting 6 mil not even on fame credits, no... To boost the speed of getting fame credits on a set that's already 100/100.

      Satchel + auto-respec on a set that's already 100+ is a worse money sink than just reading tomes on whatever's not at 100 yet. It's only worth it for a multibillionaire that has everything at 100% on the destiny board and the only goal is to get fame credits for 120/120.

      Basically using satchel on anything that's already 100+ automatically becomes a money sink so huge you wish you'd be reading tomes so yeah he might as well spend that money on tomes of insight and label it as *whatever amount of fame he achieved by clicking fast* per hour.

      Anyway, there's no problem in doing THAT in bz. It's yellow zone that's the problem since it's risk free. Any solution would work like a repair bill in general or harsher statics-only pvp environments.

      The post was edited 2 times, last by Fat8.3node ().

    • Fat8.3node wrote:

      Yaakz wrote:

      Yep, agree

      Just check the numbers of this guy
      doing solo static in yellow zone:


      Swolebenji is good at faking numbers but this is some next level video, lol. Wasting 6 mil not even on fame credits, no... To boost the speed of getting fame credits on a set that's already 100/100.
      Satchel + auto-respec on a set that's already 100+ is a worse money sink than just reading tomes on whatever's not at 100 yet. It's only worth it for a multibillionaire that has everything at 100% on the destiny board and the only goal is to get fame credits for 120/120.

      Basically using satchel on anything that's already 100+ automatically becomes a money sink so huge you wish you'd be reading tomes so yeah he might as well spend that money on tomes of insight and label it as *whatever amount of fame he achieved by clicking fast* per hour.

      Anyway, there's no problem in doing THAT in bz. It's yellow zone that's the problem since it's risk free. Any solution would work like a repair bill in general or harsher statics-only pvp environments.
      You are the one faking numbers here. Swolebenji just proved, that you are lying.



      I have master degree in business and accounting and done some calculations on my own. Results are simple. YOU are LYING to EVERYONE, so they buy tomes of insight, so price of tomes of insight gets increased, so you can make more money. You are disgusting poority social class. SwoleBenji might be poor too, but at least he is honorable and honest person. Everyone who is lying is disgusting.

    • So you actually made another forum account AND created another video... With yet again false evidence. *claps*

      Glanced over the vid.

      "6 million silver spent on auto respec + satchel is 6 million combat fame credits". No it's not and you know this better than anybody else! 6 million fame credits alone cost 6 mil, satchel burns that further. Even funnier that you're contradicting your own earlier videos where you burn through more than 7m silver for 5m fame credits on a maxed out pve build. A lot of strawmanning with mentions of turning off auto-respec (which should be on even if you're eating tomes) and that I somehow said satchel is bad in general (it's good if you're leveling something not 100/100 mastery but the thing is if it's a pve weapon it's going to level so fast you don't want to waste extra silver).


      Also don't forget when you're eating tomes you're getting auto-respec fame credits just as much as you're getting them by leveling.

      And you managed to multiply the total fame by 2 again just because "1 fame credit is 2 fame" yet it's not because you're leveling the whole set while eating tomes.

      Nobody "hates your guts" as you claimed in the vid but now I see why people have this attitude towards you, you're really a weird one, lol.

    • @Edalb lets see those calculations of yours
      and we compare them to mine and swole benji's

      cause swole benji did calculations wrong and just took face value of what ever @Fat8.3node said
      and did his calculations off that instead of real ingame values

      its definately not JUST 37 mil like swole said in the video
      more along the lines of 54 52 mil due to satchel cost + cost to auto respect
      i say this because he did not include calculations for satchel costs when he said "1 fame credit is 2 fame"


      i did the the real calculations and its only a 4 6 mil difference between the 8.3 satchel + auto respect method and just buying books outright
      So.. @Fat8.3node you kina lose this one but this is not considering other factors YET

      factors like buying 8.3 gear, time to fame farm and other headaches
      just add those Hidden costs up and this 8.3 method is more expensive then just buying books outright


      Edit 1: added calculation for fighter spec which swole benji did not calculate in his video
      So at the end buying tomes of insight is way more profitable then swole benji fame farm video. Look below for calculations
      Edit 2: recalculated Cost of Silver per fame credit and Adjusted this post to match post below. Look below for calculations
      The Tank Who Bonks

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    • Reserving this Space to reply @Edalb
      about silver calculation reply for later.

      Edit 1: After 3 hours of no response i Now present my Silver/ fame Calculation
      Edit 2: I RE- calculate after accounting for fighter spec Look below at extra calculations section
      this part is where swole benji did not calculate in his video
      Edit 3: re confirm Silver per fame credit. re-did calculations


      You need 33.852 mil fame assuming you buy tomes at 17k you need 3386 tomes at least
      costing total of 57.562 mil silver at least (can go up to 60 mil)


      you need 16.926 mil (weapon Specialist) + 4.23 mil (Helm Specialist) + 4.23 mil (Boots Specialist) + 8.46 mil (Armor Specialist) Fame credits
      for a total of 33.846 mil fame credits

      Assuming you are 100 spec and put on auto respect
      you are paying 0.97 silver per fame credit

      The number 0.97 comes from Killing a mob with auto respec on and no satchel
      Silver cost / fame credits

      8.3 mp satchel is 100% increase fame gain
      you pay 1.12 silver per fame made from satchel
      by using satchel you get cost of satchel + cost of convert Exp to fame credit
      0.97+1.12

      Full equation:
      0.97 silver per fame credit (original fame) + (0.97 + 1.12) satchel fame converted to fame credit + cost of satchel use to get that fame
      for a total of 3.06 silver per 2 fame credits
      (2 fame credits is because 8.3 MP satchel is 100% increase fame gain)

      so we take 33.846 X 3.06 / 2
      = 51.784 mil Silver used to get to full spec
      aka 52 mil round up

      Not 37 mil like swole said in his video


      Extra Calculations:
      Above is just specialist nodes. not nodes like bow fighter, leather hood fighter, leather armor fighter, leather shoes fighter
      which is another 14.718 mil fame credits needed
      aka another 22.518 mil silver needed
      for a grand total of 74.3 Mil round UP

      tomes of insight fill these prerequisite nodes when used. if they are already filled then its extra fame credits

      so yes tomes are Cheaper then swole benji's method when everything is accounted for
      The Tank Who Bonks

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    • The_Support_God wrote:

      @Edalb lets see those calculations of yours
      and we compare them to mine and swole benji's

      cause swole benji did calculations wrong and just took face value of what ever @Fat8.3node said
      and did his calculations off that instead of real ingame values

      its definately not JUST 37 mil like swole said in the video
      more along the lines of 54 mil due to satchel cost + cost to auto respect
      i say this because he did not include calculations for satchel costs when he said "1 fame credit is 2 fame"


      i did the the real calculations and its only a 4 mil difference between the 8.3 satchel + auto respect method and just buying books outright
      So.. @Fat8.3node you kina lose this one but this is not considering other factors YET

      factors like buying 8.3 gear, time to fame farm and other headaches
      just add those Hidden costs up and this 8.3 method is more expensive then just buying books outright

      And if you remember that books' buy orders (and that's what you're going to do if you're buying books) in some places can sometimes be as low as 13.5k then you get back to my point of books being cheaper.

      But then again one is just printing fame and another is... Trying to print fame in limited amounts while actively pve farming? Trying to compare the two is mindboggling. Satchels should be reworked.


      fareuei wrote:

      Master degree in business and accounting haahahahahhahahahhahahhaah

      With "accounting" being masters degree in creating fake accounts to speak about himself in third person.

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    • Worros wrote:

      If we could not advertise him here that would be just great. New players have no actual game knowledge, so his videos appear legit.
      Can you please explain to us here in the thread why we are or are not allowed to Advertise "him" (aka SwoleBenji)?

      His content is fair and accurate and I am unsure why this is a stance we are supposed to espouse. Is it against the forum rules?

    • It's not against the rules. It just makes more people see his videos and take them for good advice. A lot of info he provides is just wrong or subjective at best. The main thing about Albion is that there are no ultimate things to do or the best ones. Nothing is "the best" and it all really comes down to personal preference and skill. Any video claiming "the best X" in Albion is just a click bait and all of his are just that. Subjective math that is done with incorrect baseline values telling new players how to do things while showing it with max spec and max tier gear. None of that jazz is new player friendly. Perhaps 10% is. The rest is just pure flexing and trolling. New players just don't realize it as when you know nothing about the game and someone who knows more than you is explaining things you are likely to believe them cause you simply don't know any better. You also don't realize at the time how wrong what is being promoted as "the best" is actually just wrong.

      I will just give you one example and leave it at that.

      Getting to max spec is fairly simple with the amount of fame all open-world mobs give nowadays. So it's true that you can just walk around and kill regular mobs in a 4.1 set and you will hit level 100 in a few days if not earlier. However, purchasing 8.3 or 8.4 set is not a small matter for a new player. This can easily cost anywhere from 20 to 100+ million silver to acquire. For new players, this is quite a lot of silver. Even when the set is obtained each downing (and as a new player you will get downed a lot at first) will cost anywhere between 160k and 300k to repair depending on the set. It takes a LONG time to reach the break-even point by using his most famous "the best way to do things" method.

      So ignoring any sort of fun that you could have had as well as things you are robbing yourself from testing (cause he showed you with wrong math that it's not worth doing whatever it was you wanted to try), you will just be hard grinding till you are bored of the game for the sake of grinding.

      Meanwhile, you can invest 50k silver in an effective T4 excellent or 4.1 outstanding set and go roam around T5/6/7 zones close to any portal town in the bz and make more fame, earn WAY more silver, gain might and favor, and all that with next to no investment. You will reach max spec in no time just from mob kills. So you can be leveling while earning silver right away and constantly profit instead of trying to compete for worthless objectives in a yz trying to compete against 8.4 yz warriors.

      Dying is a part of this game and if you spend just a bit of time learning how to avoid gankers and even by dying a few times to understand that it's not a big deal, you will be earning much more of everything while having more fun and being ready to potentially join a decent guild down the line. The sooner you understand that you can make millions with sets worth under 100k the better. You don't need a set worth 20-120 million just to earn less in a safe zone then you would in a bz with a MUCH smaller investment.

      But of course. It's a sandbox. You can choose on your own what to do. Just remember never to trust ANY video claim that X is "the best" for Y in Albion cause that is just 100% false.

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    • Worros wrote:

      It's not against the rules. It just makes more people see his videos and take them for good advice. A lot of info he provides is just wrong or subjective at best. The main thing about Albion is that there are no ultimate things to do or the best ones. Nothing is "the best" and it all really comes down to personal preference and skill. Any video claiming "the best X" in Albion is just a click bait and all of his are just that. Subjective math that is done with incorrect baseline values telling new players how to do things while showing it with max spec and max tier gear. None of that jazz is new player friendly. Perhaps 10% is. The rest is just pure flexing and trolling. New players just don't realize it as when you know nothing about the game and someone who knows more than you is explaining things you are likely to believe them cause you simply don't know any better. You also don't realize at the time how wrong what is being promoted as "the best" is actually just wrong.

      I will just give you one example and leave it at that.

      Getting to max spec is fairly simple with the amount of fame all open-world mobs give nowadays. So it's true that you can just walk around and kill regular mobs in a 4.1 set and you will hit level 100 in a few days if not earlier. However, purchasing 8.3 or 8.4 set is not a small matter for a new player. This can easily cost anywhere from 20 to 100+ million silver to acquire. For new players, this is quite a lot of silver. Even when the set is obtained each downing (and as a new player you will get downed a lot at first) will cost anywhere between 160k and 300k to repair depending on the set. It takes a LONG time to reach the break-even point by using his most famous "the best way to do things" method.

      So ignoring any sort of fun that you could have had as well as things you are robbing yourself from testing (cause he showed you with wrong math that it's not worth doing whatever it was you wanted to try), you will just be hard grinding till you are bored of the game for the sake of grinding.

      Meanwhile, you can invest 50k silver in an effective T4 excellent or 4.1 outstanding set and go roam around T5/6/7 zones close to any portal town in the bz and make more fame, earn WAY more silver, gain might and favor, and all that with next to no investment. You will reach max spec in no time just from mob kills. So you can be leveling while earning silver right away and constantly profit instead of trying to compete for worthless objectives in a yz trying to compete against 8.4 yz warriors.

      Dying is a part of this game and if you spend just a bit of time learning how to avoid gankers and even by dying a few times to understand that it's not a big deal, you will be earning much more of everything while having more fun and being ready to potentially join a decent guild down the line. The sooner you understand that you can make millions with sets worth under 100k the better. You don't need a set worth 20-120 million just to earn less in a safe zone then you would in a bz with a MUCH smaller investment.

      But of course. It's a sandbox. You can choose on your own what to do. Just remember never to trust ANY video claim that X is "the best" for Y in Albion cause that is just 100% false.
      While I agree that anyone that spends all their time in YZ is missing out on the fundamental facet of the game (and 60+% of content), coming in and stating:

      Worros wrote:

      If we could not advertise him here that would be just great.
      is irrelevant who the content originates from. In the video from SwoleBenji he presents, with numbers, that he believes fame credits generated by satchels are a better value than reading tomes. If you disagree, please refute the central point (instead of ignoring it altogether), not attack the person presenting the argument.

      Back to the point of the thread:

      They should continue to nerf safe zone group content loot, but not for solo reasons. It is important to encourage PvEvP in this game through creating stronger incentives to do higher level dungeons as well as disincentives to running lower level solo.

      Perhaps they can scale the loot to the number of potential looters? (up to 5 for these YZ dungeons?)

    • You seem to be his fan. Give it time and you will come to realize what I mean. I am also not sure what you classified as an attack on the person. Literally explained what is fundamentally wrong with those videos and why I don't feel they should be advertised. But if you want to follow his guides, by all means.

    • Worros wrote:

      You seem to be his fan. Give it time and you will come to realize what I mean. I am also not sure what you classified as an attack on the person. Literally explained what is fundamentally wrong with those videos and why I don't feel they should be advertised. But if you want to follow his guides, by all means.
      I pity the guy who calls himself a SwoleBenji fan.
      Dude's a massive bully, griefing newbies left and right, while also whining about gankers in the Outlands.
      Take a look at him being a total psychopath in this video.

    • Worros wrote:

      If we could not advertise him here that would be just great. New players have no actual game knowledge, so his videos appear legit.
      i get 1m fame credits an hour(depending on how farmed the zone is) without auto respec or satchel. His videos on it aren't bullshit. so i don't know waht you're crying about. xD

      also this thread is pure cancer. If you like going to the bz, then just go there? I only go there for gathering since there's more full nodes. but even with a dead population of players we have after the east sundering, i still wouldnt take even a flat 8 to a deep bz static solo. so what's the problem? the groups still get everything in this game? does it hurt people knowing you can still farm decent fame when this stupid game requires billions of fame to fullly spec up?

      because if you nerf yz statics, then perhaps slash the fame requirements in half? then you only need 1 billion fame? :3

      I'd like to get off this fame farming treadmill before im 50 tyvm

    • iamBETTO wrote:

      Worros wrote:

      You seem to be his fan. Give it time and you will come to realize what I mean. I am also not sure what you classified as an attack on the person. Literally explained what is fundamentally wrong with those videos and why I don't feel they should be advertised. But if you want to follow his guides, by all means.
      I pity the guy who calls himself a SwoleBenji fan.Dude's a massive bully, griefing newbies left and right, while also whining about gankers in the Outlands.
      Take a look at him being a total psychopath in this video.

      yes yes, the guy could have logged out for 15 minutes and came back free. but if you take millions from a crafter transfering to the royals it's not griefing or bullying.

    • baconx23 wrote:

      iamBETTO wrote:

      Worros wrote:

      You seem to be his fan. Give it time and you will come to realize what I mean. I am also not sure what you classified as an attack on the person. Literally explained what is fundamentally wrong with those videos and why I don't feel they should be advertised. But if you want to follow his guides, by all means.
      I pity the guy who calls himself a SwoleBenji fan.Dude's a massive bully, griefing newbies left and right, while also whining about gankers in the Outlands.Take a look at him being a total psychopath in this video.

      yes yes, the guy could have logged out for 15 minutes and came back free. but if you take millions from a crafter transferring to the royals it's not griefing or bullying.
      I don't want to spam this thread with irrelevant sh*t, brother. You can DM me if you want, and I'll explain the difference.

    • iamBETTO wrote:

      baconx23 wrote:

      iamBETTO wrote:

      Worros wrote:

      You seem to be his fan. Give it time and you will come to realize what I mean. I am also not sure what you classified as an attack on the person. Literally explained what is fundamentally wrong with those videos and why I don't feel they should be advertised. But if you want to follow his guides, by all means.
      I pity the guy who calls himself a SwoleBenji fan.Dude's a massive bully, griefing newbies left and right, while also whining about gankers in the Outlands.Take a look at him being a total psychopath in this video.
      yes yes, the guy could have logged out for 15 minutes and came back free. but if you take millions from a crafter transferring to the royals it's not griefing or bullying.
      I don't want to spam this thread with irrelevant sh*t, brother. You can DM me if you want, and I'll explain the difference.
      take a look around man. the whole thread is shit and now that youre actually challenged with logic:

      players stealing from others with gangs of 10+ people isnt bullyinng

      but a silly example in the yz is

      shows you're just a moron and lack the capacity to think for yourself.

    • I am sorry @baconx23
      Bully then posting in YT for the whole world to see is not Bullying?
      and bragging on top of it?
      pretty sure it falls under the category of cyberbullying in most countries

      fk sake you ruin the poor guy's will to play the game with such embarasement
      even i would quit the game after this if i were him.


      at least blackzone players gank with honor in a life or death situation
      and Post highlights of Epic Kills.
      where people are at awe of Juicy kills

      there a huge difference between Dying and going into a ganker's highlight clip
      and being flamed and laughed at in a video posted by swole.


      Swole is the kind of guy that trolls but cant take a hit back
      The Tank Who Bonks

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    • The_Support_God wrote:

      I am sorry @baconx23
      Bully then posting in YT for the whole world to see is not Bullying?
      and bragging on top of it?
      pretty sure it falls under the category of cyberbullying in most countries

      fk sake you ruin the poor guy's will to play the game with such embarasement
      even i would quit the game after this if i were him.


      at least blackzone players gank with honor in a life or death situation
      and Post highlights of Epic Kills.
      where people are at awe of Juicy kills

      there a huge difference between Dying and going into a ganker's highlight clip
      and being flamed and laughed at in a video posted by swole.


      Swole is the kind of guy that trolls but cant take a hit back
      almost every single day i see bragging posts on discord either showing off how much they stole from transporters or laughing at the person dming them while being mad.

      this game is full of bullies. just 99% dont have a platform worth giving a damn about. I play this game and treat it as a survival game in lethal zones, but let's not pretend going 10 v 1 isnt greifing

    • There is Survival because of Full Loot
      both parties agreed to Lose gear/loot when they enter red / blackzone for that Silver profit
      that yellow/ blue zones will never surpass


      and then theres just plain trolling / bullying
      with nothing to gain except self satisfaction
      of bullying the other guy until he logs out or quit the game

      and this is Low blow even for a PvP game.


      if you cant see the difference between the two
      then theres something wrong with you.


      imagine if someone manages to Softlock you via a Bug or Exploit and you cannot play the game after
      unless you ask for mods for help or Call SBI to Ban the other guy
      and before he got banned he post about how he trap you and humiliates you in youtube

      How would you feel
      The Tank Who Bonks