Claymore is pure ass

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    • Claymore is pure ass

      Too many nerfs through knee jerk reactions have made this weapon unplayable in any content. The E cant even reach a frost shot, curse root, or frost root. How can you justify giving a weapon FIVE nerfs

      Reinstall the range the E had.
      Slightly increase E dmg again.

      Prestack/Iron Root/Q Speed Nerfs were enough to balance this weapon.

    • moking wrote:

      BurnsidePDX wrote:

      Psssst. Everyone just started playing dual swords. It’s the old claymore but better.
      It's literally not. You're making an objectively false statement.
      Ok, maybe 80% as good in CD’s and worlds better in every other content*. It is literally the #1 played weapon currently in CD’s. Doesn’t mean it’ll beat everything 1vs1… I sure hope not as it’s also god like in ow roam and small scale pvp. But you’ll have a pretty good shot at going toe to toe with most everything if you actually choose to fight and not just break crystals with your god like mobility

    • BurnsidePDX wrote:

      Ok, maybe 80% as good in CD’s and worlds better in every other content*
      What I'm saying, is that dual swords in it's current iteration, is not remotely comparable to old Claymore. As old claymore performed below the average across nearly all seasons of CD's. And in regards to content played, again its just used for 1v1's in CD's and mist. Albion is not a 1v1 game, nor is melee attacking' with attack speed ever going to be a global meta that influences other forms of content. Most of what we see in terms of performance with these type of weapons hang solely on the synergy with mercenary jacket.

    • Pre 5 nerf claymore was actually quite underpowered in its own right and there were several match ups that REQUIRED pre-stack to even be competitive. A simple nerf to stop prestacking would have perfectly balanced the weapon.

      Spear was its natural enemy
      Curse was too busted to compete with
      1H XBow would kite you to death
      Wildfire was off the charts OP
      Frost meant you were insta dead

      It was good against Arcane/Bow

      Now its terrible against everything and can only win if your opponent makes a mortal mistake.

    • Claymore is pure ass
      That's a good one!

      4 nerfs down the line, Claymore remains the only weapon with a hardhitting pointnclic gap closer granting a 1 sec immunity to CC AND DMG.
      It is on the rather high-skill ceiling category of weapons, but it is nowhere near trash.

      AbdulSharipovich has been sitting at the top of the 2v2 ladder with his trusty claymore for a long time now, enduring nerfs and passing through new metas. He's blasting through dagger pairs, deathgivers, dual swords and demoniac all alike.

      With the current hunterhood meta this is one of the only Es that don't get reflected, & you can bait pretty much everything faking a charge.

      This is still an apex weapon. Maybe not top meta right now, but pleaaaaaase! Come onnnnn?! Claymore is pure ass ???

      Have a good one!

    • Voryson wrote:

      Claymore is pure ass
      That's a good one!

      4 nerfs down the line, Claymore remains the only weapon with a hardhitting pointnclic gap closer granting a 1 sec immunity to CC AND DMG.
      It is on the rather high-skill ceiling category of weapons, but it is nowhere near trash.

      AbdulSharipovich has been sitting at the top of the 2v2 ladder with his trusty claymore for a long time now, enduring nerfs and passing through new metas. He's blasting through dagger pairs, deathgivers, dual swords and demoniac all alike.

      With the current hunterhood meta this is one of the only Es that don't get reflected, & you can bait pretty much everything faking a charge.

      This is still an apex weapon. Maybe not top meta right now, but pleaaaaaase! Come onnnnn?! Claymore is pure ass ???

      Have a good one!
      Incorrect. It was balanced around pre-stacking and then they nerfed prestacking. It is now mandatory to prestack to be competitive and even then you are still very likely to lose (high skill ceiling being correct and part of the issue).

      You point to the CC, DMG, gap close but dont understand how often Claymores are require to 0 stack E as a pure gap close. The fact that it doesnt reach through a simple curse desecrate is a huge problem.

      Have a bad one!

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    • Painball wrote:

      How can you justify giving a weapon FIVE nerfs
      -> by it still being very very competitive in 2v2 for example?

      Oh, that's a CD only thread right ? Wasn't clearly stated lad.

      Sorry your 1v1 CD weapon got out of the META, you've had a damn good run boy, it had been traumatizing everyone for months before well deserved nerfs. Now you can try and learn to be better than other people with the weapon you like (which is still widely viable on claymore), or just pick a META weapon like you initially did :)
      Remember some of us would like to play Infernal Scythe and it's almost pure ass, so your whining about claymore really is entertaining!

      Have a good one!

    • Voryson wrote:

      Claymore is pure ass
      That's a good one!

      4 nerfs down the line, Claymore remains the only weapon with a hardhitting pointnclic gap closer granting a 1 sec immunity to CC AND DMG.
      It is on the rather high-skill ceiling category of weapons, but it is nowhere near trash.

      AbdulSharipovich has been sitting at the top of the 2v2 ladder with his trusty claymore for a long time now, enduring nerfs and passing through new metas. He's blasting through dagger pairs, deathgivers, dual swords and demoniac all alike.

      With the current hunterhood meta this is one of the only Es that don't get reflected, & you can bait pretty much everything faking a charge.

      This is still an apex weapon. Maybe not top meta right now, but pleaaaaaase! Come onnnnn?! Claymore is pure ass ???

      Have a good one!
      Yes its pure ass. And you cant use anecdotal evidence of a single player as proof that it is fine in its current position. Claymore has always held a solid spot in 2v2's. It was the Meta sword, for 2v2, not THE META, ever. This occurred back in the day after the fear changes on fiend robe. Before the feind robe changes no one played claymore in 2v2's. Also Claymore has always been played with a healer in 2v2, as it is not viable with a double dps comp, as the damage takes too long to output, and it is in no way comparable to the real damage dealer weapons.

      Claymore is not an APEX weapon, its dogshit, and only currently viable in 2v2's with a healer. That's it. It used to be played open world, it used to be played in 5v5, it used to have some type of presence in CD's at a below 49% average win-rate, now it has been removed from all of that content.

    • Yup, right after your evidence that its pick rate is lower than the other 97 weapons!
      And also that his win rate is lower on average against each of those 97 weapons!
      Then it will be possible to say that he is weak

      It’s impossible to press the buttons that themselves hit the target and win, cry cry. =99(9(99(((

    • pulseyka wrote:

      Yup, right after your evidence that its pick rate is lower than the other 97 weapons!
      That not how this works. You made a claim, now back that claim up with a source for your statement. The burden of proof is on you.

      If you said unicorns exist in a forest, it is your job to provide evidence, not my job to disprove it.

      pulseyka wrote:

      And also that his win rate is lower on average against each of those 97 weapons!
      Demonic overnerf in the nda

      The post was edited 1 time, last by moking ().