Beyond the Veil Patch 2 is Live

    • FakeLamb wrote:

      Arcanian88 wrote:

      FakeLamb wrote:

      from spending hours of doing them, and not worth while until you have a 100m+ set.
      rewarding players for achieving such heights is how it should be.
      same goes with the black zone, guild make millions in it. join a guild and stop complaining or go farm HCE for hours on end(with a 100m+ set) to get some decent silver.
      end game is end game, nerf it and there is no point thriving for it.

      Jerek wrote:

      s)...HCErs can amass millions of silver and never have to worry about losing any gear just repair costs.

      100% safe lucrative gameplay should not exist in this game.Risk=reward remember? It goes against the quintessential ideal of the entire game.
      You forgot to mention the rats then. low risk, high payout.
      also, again i repeat, if you spend over a year(if you dont swipe alot) to reach end game, it should be worthwhile.

      there are many other forms of 100% no risk lucrative gameplay, that involve, wait for it; end game progress.

      it takes either/and fame, knowledge and skill, and tons of silver to start making silver lucratively.

      HCE players will only go out and feed you free gear when they make enough for it. and they really only make enough when: they have spec, high tier expensive gear, have the know about and skill to accomplish the timed event, be part of a social group for partying up.

      Similar can be accomplished to apply for one of the king guilds that have little to no risk and most of the reward.

      PS; millions of silver is nothing in this game. anything less then 2m an hour is a waist of time for end game players imo
      Your counter point to my argument is that there are other safe activities/ low risk activities that give high rewards? To that I would simply say, nerf or delete them all. They all go against the mantra of the games design, and only serve to devalue any actual high risk high reward content.

    • FakeLamb wrote:

      from spending hours of doing them, and not worth while until you have a 100m+ set.
      rewarding players for achieving such heights is how it should be.
      same goes with the black zone, guild make millions in it. join a guild and stop complaining or go farm HCE for hours on end(with a 100m+ set) to get some decent silver.
      end game is end game, nerf it and there is no point thriving for it.

      Jerek wrote:

      s)...HCErs can amass millions of silver and never have to worry about losing any gear just repair costs.

      HCE's should be taken out period. There's not risk vs reward with them at all. That's the point of this game not having some scrub swipe an HG set then help further destroy this economy. HCE's were implemented when this game had NOTHING for meaningful PvE in the open world. Years later there's enough PvE in the game that these shouldn't be needed. Oh but your 100 million dollar set is useless now? DEAL WITH IT, like how the ppl with labourer empires had to DEAL WITH IT when they destroyed that system with the Lands Update (and fucked over stone gatherers too btw).

      Whatever I'm done with this game when my sub runs out after Xmas. SBI is no longer what it used to be especially now with being owned by a larger corporation that clearly likes to push cash shop while nerfing the entire game... How many of these armor vanity sets have they released but yet haven't updated the gathering armor which was promised over a year ago. I'm sick and tired of the lies, and the majority of this community. I know I won't be missed and I don't give two fucks about it.
      So we get a Yuletide event IG, but my religion's holiday of All You Can Eat Pasta Friday's isn't allowed? All hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster: Our Lord and Savior of all you can eat!

      The post was edited 2 times, last by Jerek ().

    • Jerek wrote:

      FakeLamb wrote:

      from spending hours of doing them, and not worth while until you have a 100m+ set.
      rewarding players for achieving such heights is how it should be.
      same goes with the black zone, guild make millions in it. join a guild and stop complaining or go farm HCE for hours on end(with a 100m+ set) to get some decent silver.
      end game is end game, nerf it and there is no point thriving for it.

      Jerek wrote:

      s)...HCErs can amass millions of silver and never have to worry about losing any gear just repair costs.

      HCE's should be taken out period. There's not risk vs reward with them at all. That's the point of this game not having some scrub swipe an HG set then help further destroy this economy. HCE's were implemented when this game had NOTHING for meaningful PvE in the open world. Years later there's enough PvE in the game that these shouldn't be needed. Oh but your 100 million dollar set is useless now? DEAL WITH IT, like how the ppl with labourer empires had to DEAL WITH IT when they destroyed that system with the Lands Update (and fucked over stone gatherers too btw).
      Whatever I'm done with this game when my sub runs out after Xmas. SBI is no longer what it used to be especially now with being owned by a larger corporation that clearly likes to push cash shop while nerfing the entire game... How many of these armor vanity sets have they released but yet haven't updated the gathering armor which was promised over a year ago. I'm sick and tired of the lies, and the majority of this community. I know I won't be missed and I don't give two fucks about it.
      I will take it a step further and say HCE should have never even been put in the game, imagine how much better off the game would be if those billions of silver were distributed to people in bz group dungeons back then... the way it should have been in an open world sandbox.

      A lot of the games current demise has to do with two main parties: the people who risk nothing (and thus never recycle gear into the economy), and the people who don't support the game (freeloaders). Every bad thing about this games economy stems from those two demographics and the free pony ride they get in Albion Online. The funny part about it is both of these groups of morons think this game needs them... Lol all they do is cost us more taxes in game, higher premium costs, crazy trash rates, less loot from bz content, etc. It all gets sucked away to fuel these assholes, and the game would be better off without them.

      I'm with you I will probably take another hiatus from Albion Online after this failure of a patch. This game clearly isn't a passion project anymore.

    • Ah yes, the good ol' "double everything" business plan. As a gatherer I had to walk through 10 zones to reach couple resources, and another 5 to reach few more. For me at least, this decision was a wrong turn. Unless of course there is a war against gatherers, then you're doing a splendid job.

    • I like that the fast travel now takes consecuences. Thanks.

      The option to go to portal, jump to ho and travel free again... its very useful. But its too good for a small number of guilds or crafters that just live everywhere...

      now, they need to think better when they want to remove home or not and change the activity what ther are doing.

      And make the big, big allys less stronger than before.


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    • FakeLamb wrote:

      PS; millions of silver is nothing in this game. anything less then 2m an hour is a waist of time for end game players imo
      Are you doing only HCE ? Cause I think you have a wrong opinion :

      This week-end for instance, we did go for 1h of roam at outpost timer with a 14 men group.
      We grab a big chest, a medium one and 2 outposts (and 3 kills). At the end of the session, we get a little less than 1m by person.
      By your standards, we should have done the same with 7 men to get 2m, and let me assure you we could not have done so.
      Moreover, not all sessions are that sucessfull (in term of silver, cause we lacked content as a similar size group choose to not take the fight).

      This week end also, we did go for an avalonian party of 6 players of around 1h30.
      We did a static dungeon where we got a purple chest + the loot of another 7 men which failed to dive us. Then we got a raid chest.
      By that time we didn't even get 1.5M each.
      Once again, it is not even half your 2M by hour.

      So I don't know about HCE, but imho, risky end game content doesn't even give 1m/hour and that's when you are the sucessfull group.

      The post was edited 2 times, last by grul ().

    • I mean this hype ain't good tbh... For fame and for everything that's fine but it need to be an IP cap.
      Just imagine that everywhere is like T8.4 so where is the challenge? Average IP ain't enough or you need a good sets, otherwise Mist means nothing.

      Be safe.
      Fuckan#2106

    • grul wrote:

      FakeLamb wrote:

      PS; millions of silver is nothing in this game. anything less then 2m an hour is a waist of time for end game players imo
      Are you doing only HCE ? Cause I think you have a wrong opinion :
      This week-end for instance, we did go for 1h of roam at outpost timer with a 14 men group.
      We grab a big chest, a medium one and 2 outposts (and 3 kills). At the end of the session, we get a little less than 1m by person.
      By your standards, we should have done the same with 7 men to get 2m, and let me assure you we could not have done so.
      Moreover, not all sessions are that sucessfull (in term of silver, cause we lacked content as a similar size group choose to not take the fight).

      This week end also, we did go for an avalonian party of 6 players of around 1h30.
      We did a static dungeon where we got a purple chest + the loot of another 7 men which failed to dive us. Then we got a raid chest.
      By that time we didn't even get 1.5M each.
      Once again, it is not even half your 2M by hour.

      So I don't know about HCE, but imho, risky end game content doesn't even give 1m/hour and that's when you are the sucessfull group.
      to make 2m an hour in HCE you need over 150m investment, a party that knows what they are doing very well, because each death=350k repair
      the comment how swipers can just swipe and start making silver counts for everything not only hce. you can swipe to get fame and go high tier content.
      your point is variable, if you get a legendary chest, players can bank big, but if you all swipe and wear 8.3 you can also wreck havoc in the black zone and make way more then 2m an hour.

      my point is, if you achieve end game capability then you should be rewarded for it.

    • JonnnyBones wrote:

      Jerek wrote:

      FakeLamb wrote:

      from spending hours of doing them, and not worth while until you have a 100m+ set.
      rewarding players for achieving such heights is how it should be.
      same goes with the black zone, guild make millions in it. join a guild and stop complaining or go farm HCE for hours on end(with a 100m+ set) to get some decent silver.
      end game is end game, nerf it and there is no point thriving for it.

      Jerek wrote:

      s)...HCErs can amass millions of silver and never have to worry about losing any gear just repair costs.

      HCE's should be taken out period. There's not risk vs reward with them at all. That's the point of this game not having some scrub swipe an HG set then help further destroy this economy. HCE's were implemented when this game had NOTHING for meaningful PvE in the open world. Years later there's enough PvE in the game that these shouldn't be needed. Oh but your 100 million dollar set is useless now? DEAL WITH IT, like how the ppl with labourer empires had to DEAL WITH IT when they destroyed that system with the Lands Update (and fucked over stone gatherers too btw).Whatever I'm done with this game when my sub runs out after Xmas. SBI is no longer what it used to be especially now with being owned by a larger corporation that clearly likes to push cash shop while nerfing the entire game... How many of these armor vanity sets have they released but yet haven't updated the gathering armor which was promised over a year ago. I'm sick and tired of the lies, and the majority of this community. I know I won't be missed and I don't give two fucks about it.
      I will take it a step further and say HCE should have never even been put in the game, imagine how much better off the game would be if those billions of silver were distributed to people in bz group dungeons back then... the way it should have been in an open world sandbox.
      A lot of the games current demise has to do with two main parties: the people who risk nothing (and thus never recycle gear into the economy), and the people who don't support the game (freeloaders). Every bad thing about this games economy stems from those two demographics and the free pony ride they get in Albion Online. The funny part about it is both of these groups of morons think this game needs them... Lol all they do is cost us more taxes in game, higher premium costs, crazy trash rates, less loot from bz content, etc. It all gets sucked away to fuel these assholes, and the game would be better off without them.

      I'm with you I will probably take another hiatus from Albion Online after this failure of a patch. This game clearly isn't a passion project anymore.
      Well I can say that I am not part of the demise of this game. I have supported this game since 2016 with alpha packs, premium by cash ~75% of the time, and I have gotten several vanity skin sets. It's unfortunate that this game used to have 4 patches a year of content and now we're barely getting 2 major patches (with 1 being a complete and utter joke). The only way these companies learn is with the dollar, so I'm not supporting them with real currency until they actually have a proper road map (and stick with it). I'm sick of features being hyped only for them to disappear without even an explanation. I get that in game design this happens...which is why you don't announce features that aren't even ready to ship!

      The credit card swiping / RMTing "Round Table" of racists (Syndic) and idiots can support this game well into the future. I'll keep what little money I have left in my pocket (thanks inflation) while I watch this world (and online) burn.

      PS: SBI here's one thing you can do for 2023....LISTEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY (the actual community and not 20 or so elitists on your pathetic round table. They only care about maintaining their power grip over the entire community).
      So we get a Yuletide event IG, but my religion's holiday of All You Can Eat Pasta Friday's isn't allowed? All hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster: Our Lord and Savior of all you can eat!

      The post was edited 7 times, last by Jerek ().

    • Jerek wrote:

      JonnnyBones wrote:

      Jerek wrote:

      FakeLamb wrote:

      from spending hours of doing them, and not worth while until you have a 100m+ set.
      rewarding players for achieving such heights is how it should be.
      same goes with the black zone, guild make millions in it. join a guild and stop complaining or go farm HCE for hours on end(with a 100m+ set) to get some decent silver.
      end game is end game, nerf it and there is no point thriving for it.

      Jerek wrote:

      s)...HCErs can amass millions of silver and never have to worry about losing any gear just repair costs.

      HCE's should be taken out period. There's not risk vs reward with them at all. That's the point of this game not having some scrub swipe an HG set then help further destroy this economy. HCE's were implemented when this game had NOTHING for meaningful PvE in the open world. Years later there's enough PvE in the game that these shouldn't be needed. Oh but your 100 million dollar set is useless now? DEAL WITH IT, like how the ppl with labourer empires had to DEAL WITH IT when they destroyed that system with the Lands Update (and fucked over stone gatherers too btw).Whatever I'm done with this game when my sub runs out after Xmas. SBI is no longer what it used to be especially now with being owned by a larger corporation that clearly likes to push cash shop while nerfing the entire game... How many of these armor vanity sets have they released but yet haven't updated the gathering armor which was promised over a year ago. I'm sick and tired of the lies, and the majority of this community. I know I won't be missed and I don't give two fucks about it.
      I will take it a step further and say HCE should have never even been put in the game, imagine how much better off the game would be if those billions of silver were distributed to people in bz group dungeons back then... the way it should have been in an open world sandbox.A lot of the games current demise has to do with two main parties: the people who risk nothing (and thus never recycle gear into the economy), and the people who don't support the game (freeloaders). Every bad thing about this games economy stems from those two demographics and the free pony ride they get in Albion Online. The funny part about it is both of these groups of morons think this game needs them... Lol all they do is cost us more taxes in game, higher premium costs, crazy trash rates, less loot from bz content, etc. It all gets sucked away to fuel these assholes, and the game would be better off without them.

      I'm with you I will probably take another hiatus from Albion Online after this failure of a patch. This game clearly isn't a passion project anymore.
      Well I can say that I am not part of the demise of this game. I have supported this game since 2016 with alpha packs, premium by cash ~75% of the time, and I have gotten several vanity skin sets. It's unfortunate that this game used to have 4 patches a year of content and now we're barely getting 2 major patches (with 1 being a complete and utter joke). The only way these companies learn is with the dollar, so I'm not supporting them with real currency until they actually have a proper road map (and stick with it). I'm sick of features being hyped only for them to disappear without even an explanation. I get that in game design this happens...which is why you don't announce features that aren't even ready to ship!
      The credit card swiping / RMTing "Round Table" of racists (Syndic) and idiots can support this game well into the future. I'll keep what little money I have left in my pocket (thanks inflation) while I watch this world (and online) burn.

      PS: SBI here's one thing you can do for 2023....LISTEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY (the actual community and not 20 or so elitists on your pathetic round table. They only care about maintaining their power grip over the entire community).
      Same here, I've always thought this whole round table thing was a joke... It might as well be if they are taking balancing advice from some asshole who can't hit a shadow edge but was getting their ass kicked so badly by bear paws they had to nerf it...

      If you ask me they listen to the community a little too much, unless someone has put the years in like us, they shouldn't really be listened to all that much. Just look at all the bloodletter cry baby threads, blood letter sucks, learn to play the game! Albion is at a fork in the road, the game is really just 1 jesus patch away from being in its prime again, but it looks like they are going to continue to bleed us out and do these horrible balance patches. It's really a slap in the face to those of us who have continued to support for all these years.

    • bbopdeluxe wrote:

      Yea I'ma just post this everywhere. Albion got bought by China, this game is as good as dead. Same thing happened to Eve, once China buys the only important demographic is RMTing whales or Chinese farmers, anyone in the middle can GTFO as far as they're concerned. Be prepared for a slow and painful death... or start boycotting any game bought by China (basically all of them). But yea, this game is doomed at this point unless the community takes a hard stance against Chinese farmers/P2W. Not that there can't be SOME p2w, but the objectives shouldn't all be set up for this to be your only option (mists currently, either you started early enough to have the advantages already or you're paying $$ for everything or you're the rat plague). Take it from a new player (with a lot of experience with the genre) this game will be a shell in 1-2 years if SBI doesn't wake up. New players literally have no options other than RMT. Furthermore most of the content is just a rat (read:Chinese farmer) infested mess.

      SBI will play nice on the forums, they may even take SOME of your feedback, but they won't change anything that hurts p2w or illegal RMT (which, below the surface, is the root of all the poor gameplay). Just watch.
      rmt? wtf... get a job and buy gold from the ao platform, help the devs to improve the game. etc.
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    • SBI wouldn't want to hurt illegal RMT?
      where is the logic of having Illegal RMT?

      HELLO???????

      IS THERE ANYTHING INSIDE OF YOUR HEAD???????

      bbopdeluxe wrote:

      Yea I'ma just post this everywhere. Albion got bought by China, this game is as good as dead. Same thing happened to Eve, once China buys the only important demographic is RMTing whales or Chinese farmers, anyone in the middle can GTFO as far as they're concerned. Be prepared for a slow and painful death... or start boycotting any game bought by China (basically all of them). But yea, this game is doomed at this point unless the community takes a hard stance against Chinese farmers/P2W. Not that there can't be SOME p2w, but the objectives shouldn't all be set up for this to be your only option (mists currently, either you started early enough to have the advantages already or you're paying $$ for everything or you're the rat plague). Take it from a new player (with a lot of experience with the genre) this game will be a shell in 1-2 years if SBI doesn't wake up. New players literally have no options other than RMT. Furthermore most of the content is just a rat (read:Chinese farmer) infested mess.

      SBI will play nice on the forums, they may even take SOME of your feedback, but they won't change anything that hurts p2w or illegal RMT (which, below the surface, is the root of all the poor gameplay). Just watch.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by FakeLamb ().

    • Captainrussia wrote:

      bbopdeluxe wrote:

      Albion got bought by China
      proof?

      Arcanian88 wrote:

      Everything I can find about stillfront points to Swedish founder and Swedish company. As far as I can understand, Sweden has some of the best consumer protection laws, although I may be mistaken.
      oh sorry not China, a mobile gaming company. Same fking thing. They're still gonna bubble wrap farmers and RMTers to the fking moon. Seems like they already have honestly. This game plays like it's been completely neutered. Everyone running around in miner boots undead cape and invis potions. Every PvPer is 1h curse or Deathgivers because that's the only builds that are viable in PvP and PvCarebear (and this is only really the case because both builds are completely busted). It's honestly pathetic game design and you can tell their only real goal is bubble wrapping their coveted mobile RMTing PvE only whale.

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