Fists of Ava - Purifying combination

    • fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      at least is more fair to play against blackhands
      blackhands is point and click and has lower cooldown
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    • The_Support_God wrote:

      fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      at least is more fair to play against blackhands
      blackhands is point and click and has lower cooldown
      what fast reaction? Come on... It's been long enough time having big combo damage+displacement + mobility for free. No pre stack at all or dot.
      Spear w mobility was nerfed way more faster while these gloves keep deleting groups with most streamers using it.
    • PaladinJavier wrote:

      The_Support_God wrote:

      fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      at least is more fair to play against blackhands
      blackhands is point and click and has lower cooldown
      what fast reaction? Come on... It's been long enough time having big combo damage+displacement + mobility for free. No pre stack at all or dot.Spear w mobility was nerfed way more faster while these gloves keep deleting groups with most streamers using it.
      slow down slow down this uncle is very slow

      are you saying that the E1 speed is too fast? or too slow

      because from my play times the only way ava glove land E on me is when i get hit with CC from Q or W follow up with E1 E2 combo
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    • The_Support_God wrote:

      PaladinJavier wrote:

      The_Support_God wrote:

      fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      at least is more fair to play against blackhands
      blackhands is point and click and has lower cooldown
      what fast reaction? Come on... It's been long enough time having big combo damage+displacement + mobility for free. No pre stack at all or dot.Spear w mobility was nerfed way more faster while these gloves keep deleting groups with most streamers using it.
      slow down slow down this uncle is very slow
      are you saying that the E1 speed is too fast? or too slow

      because from my play times the only way ava glove land E on me is when i get hit with CC from Q or W follow up with E1 E2 combo
      That's the problem: You combine cc+high damage+ mobility without previous condition.
    • while the whole point of war gloves tree is big combo and reset
      and is very mana intensive as downside

      the Big combo E that has CC+High damage+ mobility with 30 sec cooldown. 15 for the mobility only
      is too strong???

      what is your suggestion to solve this?
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      The post was edited 1 time, last by The_Support_God ().

    • The_Support_God wrote:

      fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      at least is more fair to play against blackhands
      blackhands is point and click and has lower cooldown
      I love that you dont know that you are mid air when they can recast their E and theres nothing you can do about it. No Dodge Roll, no Fast Reaction, no nothing.

      So clueless yet spout your idiotic opinion in every thread.

      Gloves died off in current meta so theyve been less broken lately. If they were to fix the super broken stuff (Demonic, Bow, Pre-stacking) then these would become OP again.
    • @Painball
      NO its just that all this time i play as bow i rarely get hit by ava gloves if any because of my range
      also i dont see ava glove or much gloves at all in open world or the time i play in CD
      compared to claymore and spears

      so only time i get hit by ava glove is when they chain Q CC into E1 and E2
      a quick multi shot/frost shot/knockback helm to the face and walk backwards is enough to allow me to keep distance and poke
      so i never had any problems with gloves line

      so if anything from melee perspective at point blank is arguably harder to dodge
      so yes i am clueless on how you melees deal with the combo cause i dont have problems with it as a bow


      so @Painball
      if you want to go about nerfing this how would you go about it?
      cause from my PoV without Q CC landing E1 E2 is hard but with the CC its almost guarantied heavy damage

      hence my initial impression of

      The_Support_God wrote:

      fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      also please stop insulting
      i just see things differently as a bow player
      unlike you as a claymore/ trinity spear main
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      For it will only bring you pain

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    • Trial_hard wrote:

      If i play gloves i have in contrary do dagger no issue spamming q for mobility.

      It is much easier to reset in gloves than in dagger..

      And black hands was easy to play against as there was way less mobility on old BH build as on ava gloves
      I hated black hands point and click
      80% of defensives goes out the window with the point and click stun / purge that does 1/3 of your hp every 20 secs

      compare ava gloves to blackhands i prefer ava gloves because despite the super large HIT i can see it coming
      and if i get hit that means i fk up as a bow user and deserve to die
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      For it will only bring you pain

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    • The_Support_God wrote:

      fast reaction?
      dodge roll on boots?

      oh cc from Q makes dodging impossible
      is this the problem?

      got to agree that when he lands E1 E2 is a confirm hit
      and its quite strong and satisfying to get the combination off

      at least is more fair to play against blackhands
      blackhands is point and click and has lower cooldown
      start playing the game and stop theorizing with NDA....


      Trial_hard wrote:

      And black hands was easy to play against as there was way less mobility on old BH build as on ava gloves
      there was a frame for defensive between purge and DMG and those ava gloves are not there, unless you have a server room in your backyard.

      The post was edited 2 times, last by Quagga ().

    • I Do play the game
      just dont see much problem with ava gloves
      compared to the time i play against blackhands

      when i compare them side by side or vs the current demon fangs

      @Quagga how about you be useful and start proving solutions to this poor guy @Cspar
      instead of spending time insulting me
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    • The_Support_God wrote:

      @Quagga how about you be useful and start proving solutions to this poor guy
      Only soldier helmet or other type of iframe/blink, but that still won't make u sure that you won't get huge DMG from E, you only dodge the knockup ^^.

      they need to add a bigger cast time of 0.1 or 0.2 sec so that spamming pot between knockups will be able to absorb DMG from E.

      Or let them finally fix displacement and make pots usable in the air.

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    • @Stardust968485
      i get that my first response is not well thought out

      just because i dont have problems with it as a ranged main with decent mobility
      does not mean melee players does not have a fun time against gloves
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      For it will only bring you pain

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    • @Painball
      you are just salty because every other class has 1 or 2 tools to counter your claymore and trinity
      and you dont actualy respect or understand why they are OP and keep dying to them over and over

      you dont care about actual balance and just want your weapon to be able to kill every other weapon
      at least i try to understand the problem even if it makes me look like an idiot

      your responses so far have contributed nothing to solve the issues
      nor shed light on why they are OP, in what conditions and what can be done to fix it

      if you have so much time to find fault with me use it to contribute to give insight into the problem and its potential fix
      Embrace the Risk Vs Reward. Do not deny it
      For it will only bring you pain

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      The post was edited 2 times, last by The_Support_God ().

    • The_Support_God wrote:

      @Stardust968485
      i get that my first response is not well thought out

      just because i dont have problems with it as a ranged main with decent mobility
      does not mean melee players does not have a fun time against gloves
      Could you tell me the character you used so that I may check your stats and see where you based your opinion from. As someone who has used the Fists Of Avalon and the whole bow tree extensively in CDs, I can't take any of your takes seriously
    • Stardust968485 wrote:

      Could you tell me the character you used so that I may check your stats and see where you based your opinion from. As someone who has used the Fists Of Avalon and the whole bow tree extensively in CDs, I can't take any of your takes seriously
      Lol, he play only on forum and maybe on test server and have no clue what is going on in this game. Or maybe farm noobs in t6 cd, though I would rather believe that they farm him, counting his level of understanding:)
      And it is the main issue that every thread on this half dead forum is flooded with posts from several ppl like him. This loud minority of idiots destroy any adequate feedback from the community. At least here.