Refining your gathering good

    • if you take your goods to the proper player run vendor in a different town and you've skilled up refining it could be profitable.

      The only people that make money in this game are the Cartels the insiders.
      Your island is worthless for crafting.
      You also won't find any real direct information that's actually beneficial.

      I've even noticed many guides are misleading and it feels intentionally so.
    • Majindoom wrote:

      if you take your goods to the proper player run vendor in a different town and you've skilled up refining it could be profitable.

      The only people that make money in this game are the Cartels the insiders.
      Your island is worthless for crafting.
      You also won't find any real direct information that's actually beneficial.

      I've even noticed many guides are misleading and it feels intentionally so.
      this game have cartel? whatttt
    • It's barely noticable on .0 and .1 resources up to T5.

      You will lose silver refining .2 or .3 of any tier and everything past T5 if you don't use focus + city bonus.

      The only time you would want to refine yourself is when you want to craft your own equipment because you are super deep in the blackzone and have not always access to a city. You lose out on profit but save time.

      Without "cartels" every city plot owner would start undercutting each other. Nobody would make any profit anymore. Don't see it as a bad thing.
    • Akira-0 wrote:

      does refining after do some gathering is profitable? or just sell them directly?
      As you can see from responses, it's not a topic with an easy "yes" or "no". Market forces change sell prices for raw and refined resources all the time.

      In general, you can just sell raw resources, not worry too much about it, and spend that time doing what you like in the game.

      Refining on an island or in a city without 40% local bonus is a loss.
      Refining when player stations raise prices is a loss. 300-500 fee per 100 nutrition is fine, but 1500+ is a no go.
      Refining T2 and T3 is often (not always) a little bit profitable because large players don't bother with it. Using focus here is a waste of focus.
      Refining higher tiers without focus is a loss. With focus it's profitable, but you have to realize that max spec is 16 times more cost efficient than 0 spec, and dedicated refiners create many alts for that. At 0 spec the profit is minimal.

      So if you are worried about profit, you should start with just 1 area to level spec and use focus on (e.g. refining the resource of your home city, or farming, or cooking, or crafting one tree), and sell everything else as raw resource. And if you like that market stuff, you can look into spreadsheets and websites with prices.
    • kazuaru wrote:

      Akira-0 wrote:

      does refining after do some gathering is profitable? or just sell them directly?
      As you can see from responses, it's not a topic with an easy "yes" or "no". Market forces change sell prices for raw and refined resources all the time.
      In general, you can just sell raw resources, not worry too much about it, and spend that time doing what you like in the game.

      Refining on an island or in a city without 40% local bonus is a loss.
      Refining when player stations raise prices is a loss. 300-500 fee per 100 nutrition is fine, but 1500+ is a no go.
      Refining T2 and T3 is often (not always) a little bit profitable because large players don't bother with it. Using focus here is a waste of focus.
      Refining higher tiers without focus is a loss. With focus it's profitable, but you have to realize that max spec is 16 times more cost efficient than 0 spec, and dedicated refiners create many alts for that. At 0 spec the profit is minimal.

      So if you are worried about profit, you should start with just 1 area to level spec and use focus on (e.g. refining the resource of your home city, or farming, or cooking, or crafting one tree), and sell everything else as raw resource. And if you like that market stuff, you can look into spreadsheets and websites with prices.
      too complicated xd, but yea, refining t3 is the best i think