Consequences for Exploiting the Fame-Distribution Bug

    • 绝对不负责任的惩罚。

      Alzre wrote:

      siampas wrote:

      EANjshdusda wrote:


      很多人在这个错误期间花费了真钱。

      所以开发商从中获利。

      我们怎么能相信你不是故意制造这个错误的?

      引诱玩家多花钱?

      只是为了以后“惩罚”他们?
      我们不能相信他们。让我们离开这个 s2pid 游戏。如果他们现在可以做到这一点。是什么阻止他们在未来这样做。他们出于某种原因和自己的错误 lmao 抢劫了自己的社区。
      请不要传播您不合理的想法和仇恨。每个游戏都会出现错误,也许你应该知道这一点。
      那么为什么玩家要承担游戏官方的程序错误呢?官方如何确认此人是否有意使用此漏洞?通过他刚充值的金币?
    • Deadlus wrote:

      I have no issues with this, risk vs reward.

      But explain how this makes sense:

      prior to the bug i had 60m fame credits. On bug day, I used some t8 books on curse staff which got me like 10m fame credits, whatever.

      last night i specced all my leather jackets to 120, spent 40m or so silver, 60m fame credits.

      Today i log on, all of the fame credits i dropped on the leather jackets are gone, the 10m fame credits from the bug are gone (no issues whatsoever with this), BUT the 40m silver i spent on leather jackets is not back.

      So, i used my books and money on the day of bug, they are gone, i get it, punishment, no issues.

      3 days later, i spec my leather jackets with credits i had before the bug, and money i had before the bug, wholly unrelated to the bug, and SBI undoes the speccing, but not the 40m silver spent on it.

      Again, before some idiot says "hurr durr you abused bug you deserve it", me speccing my leather jackets had NOTHING to do with the bug.
      exactlyyyyyyy

      its just so unfair that SBI is triple punishing certain groups of people for exploiting the bug but not everyone who exploited.

      1st: yes all tomes bought for the bug = roll back I got nothing to say , I accept the punishment. But you rolling back all the non-affected items (armour, helm and shoe) + the fame credits earned from auto respec is just unreasonable.

      2nd: next why are those who used untradeable tomes, also suffer the punishment? just because they saved up the tomes and popped them at the wrong time? (fames gained from untradeable should not be rerolled)

      3rd: why did people who knowingly exploit the bug (spend at least 30-40mil worth on tomes not getting rolled back? (should have same punishment for everyone who exploited

      4th: why did SBI not roll back the next day or immed during the hot fix? but roll back an entire week's worth of fame farming + auto respec + tomes used out of the freaking bug window?!

      also as YeSer had mentioned, what about those who knowingly exploit the bug to earn huge profit instead? tomes were 20-22k but went up close to 35k...... so they can exploit that way and earn big bucks? but people on the other end will suffer?

      also as mentioned above the way things are right now is just so unfair because treatment is not the same across the board, only minority % got punished but not the majority of the others who abused it too. Also it is just so unfair that the punishment to the selected minority extends to all progress earned and spend AFTER THE BUG!!!! that is so UNJUSTIFIED.

      Last point: yes abusing bugs are wrong, but for many it is the first time and did not know of the punishment/violation. Additionally like many had pointed out that SBI released an announcement that there wont be roll backs for the bug thing, which indirectly encourage people to exploit the bug (buyer and seller of tomes). and now you guys are going back on your words, yet not giving EQUAL punishment to ALL. How are the players going to continue trust and support SBI in the future?

      The post was edited 1 time, last by user1234 ().

    • Hello,

      So let me get this straight. I used 1 stack of tomes 999 tomes, on a line in my destiny board that wasnt affected by the bug. Then yesterday I used all my non-tradable tomes on a line completely different, and i am somehow rolled back of all those things?

      I also used about 20m in t5 leather gathering tomes, and that too was rolled back...

      Is there anyway to appeal this?

      Plush

      The post was edited 1 time, last by PlushReptar ().

    • 你現在的想法等於,我給錢訂了餐廳,因為我發現餐廳的價格比平常便宜,我全額付款了,然後餐廳負責人說,這是下屬弄錯了出現問題,但有鑑於你發現便宜而默不作聲的行為,本店會沒收你訂餐廳的錢以作懲罰而且你沒權享用是次餐廳
      雖然我員工有錯,你必須為你的行為埋單
    • Mendigo_Do_Mar wrote:

      Nesnes wrote:

      For that reason, any loss of progress, including the tomes or materials these players have spent in the process, is considered part of the punishment and will not be reimbursed.
      Perfect :thumbsup:
      I'm laughing a lot with the bug abusers crying here on the forum and announcing that they will stop playing HAHAHA
      Get the fact right, many who got rolled back for abusing the bug are fine with it rolled back to a certain extend as punishment, but why should we also have all our progress and $ spent on auto respec being rolled back AFTER the bug which cause those affected to lose 4-5days worth of progress and $ OUTSIDE OF THE BUG?!

      Additionally, why should only a portion of people get punished? But not everyone who abused it get punished? Because I know people who spent 30-40m on tomes at least, not getting punished, when they too exploited it.

      Also the misleading announcement from SBI doesn't help the situation back then because it just indirectly encourage people to abuse it more.
    • blue2606 wrote:

      你現在的想法等於,我給錢訂了餐廳,因為我發現餐廳的價格比平常便宜,我全額付款了,然後餐廳負責人說,這是下屬弄錯了出現問題,但有鑑於你發現便宜而默不作聲的行為,本店會沒收你訂餐廳的錢以作懲罰而且你沒權享用是次餐廳
      雖然我員工有錯,你必須為你的行為埋單
      can't take your analogy because you cheated using the bug and your action didn't acceptable for other players that play fair
    • Alzre wrote:

      blue2606 wrote:

      你的并列餐厅,我给的钱,因为我发现餐厅的价格比平时便宜,我订错了,然后餐厅,这是下一个问题,负责人说现在你发现了便宜而付款默不作声的行为,本店没有你订餐厅的以作罚,而且你没收声权是你订餐厅的次次餐厅
      我的员工有问题,你必须为你的行为埋单
      不能拿你的比喻,因为你用这个错误作弊,你的行为对其他公平竞争的玩家来说是不可接受的
      ok that's fine and what about the money we pay for?SBI can return Bug Users all the bug fame back to the fame credit but he don't because they are lazy?or think its troublesome
    • Alzre wrote:

      YeSer wrote:

      Alzre wrote:

      YeSer wrote:

      Alzre wrote:

      YeSer wrote:

      Alzre wrote:


      YeSer wrote:

      as i say in the other threat.. the biggest benefited from the bug aren't only who's use them.. its who's sell them too. what about who's earned billions selling higher price than normal.
      and there's a lot player abuse this bug thx to your announcements about not rolling back.. give them a huge excuse to sell those item and trying to lie player to buy them.
      Those player are abuser of bug too. but they haven't any punishment?

      Nesne wrote:

      And because there has been some misinformation going around: We are not rolling back any progress

      doesn't matter they didn't violated the gameplay and it just like they got lucky because stupid abuser don't care about the risk and still buy tome for higher prices from them. LMAO
      they dont abuse the bug? when u know theres a bug and u go sell ur tome as fast as posible its nor abusing the bug? whos pay a killer to kill some body..is more assessing than the killer.
      as i said they dont violated anything they just put the price higher than normal because they know they will got lot of money from stupid abuser that think can get instant fame from the bug. do you understand what i said? hmm
      so using the bug as marketing its not abuse the bug?
      did they violated the normal gameplay? if the answer is no then noFYI: bug happens in almost every game, but the one who take advantage out of it excessively is the problem. if devs let this get away unpunished they will never learn and maybe ruin the game in the future when bug happens again
      as u say.. next time i will try to sell the buged item and skip the punish.
      go ahead hopefully there are still some stupid player out there want to abuse the bug after this :D
      I think everyone is missing the point, in that the rumor going around at the time, was that the entire server would get rolled back. That is what I think was meant in the Original Post. The entire server did not get rolled back.
      Good luck and Good skill!
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    • IAMICECREAM wrote:

      Alzre wrote:

      blue2606 wrote:

      你的并列餐厅,我给的钱,因为我发现餐厅的价格比平时便宜,我订错了,然后餐厅,这是下一个问题,负责人说现在你发现了便宜而付款默不作声的行为,本店没有你订餐厅的以作罚,而且你没收声权是你订餐厅的次次餐厅
      我的员工有问题,你必须为你的行为埋单
      不能拿你的比喻,因为你用这个错误作弊,你的行为对其他公平竞争的玩家来说是不可接受的
      ok that's fine and what about the money we pay for?SBI can return Bug Users all the bug fame back to the fame credit but he don't because they are lazy?or think its troublesome
      Here is your answer:

      Nesnes wrote:

      For that reason, any loss of progress, including the tomes or materials these players have spent in the process, is considered part of the punishment and will not be reimbursed.


      Sincerely,

      Nesnes & Dev Team
    • Oshien wrote:

      user1234 wrote:

      what about those who knowingly exploit the bug to earn huge profit instead? tomes were 20-22k but went up close to 35k...... so they can exploit that way and earn big bucks? but people on the other end will suffer?
      They aren't exploiting the bug.

      EANjshdusda wrote:

      Imagine Amazon has a bug.

      Iphone 13 is now 10$.

      people made orders.

      Amazon realised it.

      went on to cancel all the order, but NOT refunding the $10.
      its actually worth than that. Imagine they cancelled ALL your orders since the iphone order bug, but they didnt refund you the money for those orders either. thats what SBI has done here. oh you spent money on auto-respect days after? oh you used money to spec something to 120? sorry too bad
    • @Nesnes, what are your steps to fine-tune this punishment? Earlier that day I ate like 600 tomes because I decided to also play as a tank, and I have the silver so it was not a huge issue for me. I geared a camlann, a judi helm, a demon armor and royal shoes to also increase their spec. In the end I didnt trigger the bug since all of them are artifacts and didnt even get +1 fame than I should get but now Im scared because after I read what you wrote I guess you guys only look for book consumption.

      Also you are here talking about punishments and what-not but those players did not work their ways to find a loop hole on the game, this was a huge mistake solely on SBI's part. I hope you folks find a decent way to differentiate the 'abusers' and the people like me.

      Heck there is a huge chance that I wouldnt even notice the extra fame that I would get if I were to use the affected gears.
    • Deadlus wrote:

      Oshien wrote:

      user1234 wrote:

      what about those who knowingly exploit the bug to earn huge profit instead? tomes were 20-22k but went up close to 35k...... so they can exploit that way and earn big bucks? but people on the other end will suffer?
      They aren't exploiting the bug.

      EANjshdusda wrote:

      Imagine Amazon has a bug.

      Iphone 13 is now 10$.

      people made orders.

      Amazon realised it.

      went on to cancel all the order, but NOT refunding the $10.
      its actually worth than that. Imagine they cancelled ALL your orders since the iphone order bug, but they didnt refund you the money for those orders either. thats what SBI has done here. oh you spent money on auto-respect days after? oh you used money to spec something to 120? sorry too bad
      You guys are leaving the part out where you break TOS.
    • Dhivine wrote:

      Deadlus wrote:

      Oshien wrote:

      user1234 wrote:

      what about those who knowingly exploit the bug to earn huge profit instead? tomes were 20-22k but went up close to 35k...... so they can exploit that way and earn big bucks? but people on the other end will suffer?
      They aren't exploiting the bug.

      EANjshdusda wrote:

      Imagine Amazon has a bug.

      Iphone 13 is now 10$.

      people made orders.

      Amazon realised it.

      went on to cancel all the order, but NOT refunding the $10.
      its actually worth than that. Imagine they cancelled ALL your orders since the iphone order bug, but they didnt refund you the money for those orders either. thats what SBI has done here. oh you spent money on auto-respect days after? oh you used money to spec something to 120? sorry too bad
      You guys are leaving the part out where you break TOS.
      No, i didnt leave that part out. I agree, the fame should be reverted, and if you spent money buying books, too bad. I'm not out here asking for my books back, im saying if you did something fame related THREE DAYS later, which had nothing to do with the bug, that shouldnt be affected.