Into the Fray - Gathering Tomes

    • Into the Fray - Gathering Tomes

      Greetings Adventurers,

      With this post I want to introduce to you the new Gathering Tomes coming with the Into the Fray update.

      These Tomes are intended to alleviate some of the grind Gatherers face, as well as giving the same Gatherers an additional reward that can be found to liven up the monotone gathering process.
      They come in a variety of forms and colors - one for each combination of Tier (4 and above) and Resource Type.



      Familiar but different

      Gathering Tomes are in many aspects like tradeable Tomes of Insight.
      They can be used from the inventory and are freely tradable on the Marketplace.
      They also come with their own Shop Subcategory, so Tomes of Insight aren’t alone there anymore.



      Unlike Tomes of Insight, Gathering Tomes always attribute their fame to the specific Mastery Node which is associated with the same Tier and Resource Type as the tTome, regardless of what the user is wearing.
      • E.g. a Master Ore Miner Tome (T5 Ore Tome) gives Fame only to the Master Ore Miner Destiny Board Node (unlocks T5 Ore Gathering Gear).


      Gathering Tomes need to be unlocked on the Desitinyboard before they can be used.
      Each Tome is unlocked by the Gathering Node one Tier below the Tier of the Book.
      This prevents the use of a Tome before you can actually gain fame in the associated Destiny Board Node.
      • E.g. a Master Ore Miner Tome (T5 Ore Tome) is unlocked by the Adept Ore Miner Destiny Board Node (unlocks T4 Ore Gather Gear)
      They also cannot be used after you have reached the max Mastery Level in the corresponding Destiny Board Node.


      Where to find them

      Gathering Tomes can drop as additional loot when gathering any kind of resource. They will always be of the same Tier and Resource Type as resources gathered (regardless of enchantment level).
      • E.g. Titanium Ore (T5 Ore) can only drop a Master Ore Miner Tome (T5 Ore Tome)
      The drop chances are affected by any kind of gathering yield modifier (equipment, pie, events etc.).
      • E.g. If I have a +100% gathering yield modifier I double my chances of finding a Gathering Tome


      Balancing

      The drop chances are balanced to be consistent per resource gathered and are the same for each resource type.
      This means that there is no difference gathering from a normal node, resource mob or aspect.
      The enchantment state of a resource has no impact on the drop rate.

      Generally the drop chances for Gathering Tomes are very low.
      We want to make sure that when you find one it's guaranteed to be valuable.
      And, while we do want to alleviate the grind a bit, we do not want to make leveling up gathering professions trivial.
      We'll continue to monitor the price development of these tomes to make sure the integrity of gathering progression is maintained.

      The Fame is consistent for each resource type.


      TierFame
      41000
      51500
      62500
      75000
      86000

    • Hi Shakul,

      Just curious about the current state of these. I have purchased one but have never found one while harvesting (I started a new alt 2 weeks ago). The character now can equip 3 of the T5 and all T4 harvesting tools (so up to T6 resources). I know the drops are rare, but I would suspect to have found at least 1 by now....

      Also, just want to verify that the chances aren't different for zones, node or enchantment level still.

      Thanks!

    • TreKar wrote:

      Hi Shakul,

      Just curious about the current state of these. I have purchased one but have never found one while harvesting (I started a new alt 2 weeks ago). The character now can equip 3 of the T5 and all T4 harvesting tools (so up to T6 resources). I know the drops are rare, but I would suspect to have found at least 1 by now....

      Also, just want to verify that the chances aren't different for zones, node or enchantment level still.

      Thanks!

      Hey TreKar

      nothing has changed about the drop rates regarding tomes
      cluster type and enchantment rate doesn't affect these... only your yield bonus.

      However there is a weird quirk in the balancing:
      Just looking at the drop chances alone, low tier tomes seem actually rarer than high tier tomes. This is because of the availability of the resources at the different tiers.
      Meaning on a macro economic level T4 tomes are still the most common Tome, because of the sheer mass of T4 resources gathered.
      But it leads to the effect that to an individual gatherer low tier tomes might seem rarer.

      Hope this helped :)

    • Shakul57 wrote:

      TreKar wrote:

      Hi Shakul,

      Just curious about the current state of these. I have purchased one but have never found one while harvesting (I started a new alt 2 weeks ago). The character now can equip 3 of the T5 and all T4 harvesting tools (so up to T6 resources). I know the drops are rare, but I would suspect to have found at least 1 by now....

      Also, just want to verify that the chances aren't different for zones, node or enchantment level still.

      Thanks!
      Hey TreKar

      nothing has changed about the drop rates regarding tomes
      cluster type and enchantment rate doesn't affect these... only your yield bonus.

      However there is a weird quirk in the balancing:
      Just looking at the drop chances alone, low tier tomes seem actually rarer than high tier tomes. This is because of the availability of the resources at the different tiers.
      Meaning on a macro economic level T4 tomes are still the most common Tome, because of the sheer mass of T4 resources gathered.
      But it leads to the effect that to an individual gatherer low tier tomes might seem rarer.

      Hope this helped :)
      you should consider manipulating the numbers to have more low tier tomes generated this game has this terrible habit of waiting to introduce mechanics to players way later than they should be

      it also doesnt hurt to splurge a little paying out low tier tomes it likely helps because new players get to interact with them more and grind up faster to more stable income tiers and rich people can already pay in silver through pies and enchanted tools to gain low tier fame faster

      so really you are just minimizing your own mechanics impact

    • overall... the tomes seem like not worth it to use (for the price that they are being sold for). Whenever I find one, I always just sell it. I guess it works in a sense that its good income.

      But I can hardly imagine who would be using these... the "price-per-benefit" seems way out of scope. (but again as long as some "newbs" keep buying these I guess its all good)

    • noxmortus wrote:

      Tomes are in a good spot.

      The drop rate is reasonable (low) and the fame-to-book ratio is also on a good level.

      You should not be able to buy your way to T8 gathering, unless you've got 100s of millions of silver laying around to support it.
      not really part of the discussion though since it is currently easier to buy your way into t8 gathering than it is t4 gathering

      the amount of tomes dropped per amount of time gathering should be balanced not some weird made up output based on fame gained with higher tiers gaining huge amounts of fame more than lower.

      it makes no sense at all