• # Martlock Tanner Tax 7% Return Rate with focus 49% - F#ck the Cartel

F#ck the cartel.

I opened my island so you guys can use my t8 tanner, let me know if you want to have access and i will add you to the list.

Tax cost 7%
Return rate with focus 49.7%
Return rate without focus 28.4%

Dont let the cartel wins and starve them to death the power is on you.

IGN: Binara
Or tell me through here.
• Nice. I will message you in game in few hours.

...and you're right. The cartels and their lackeys will soon be here trying to cause confusion with disinformation. The math is simple.

Cartels 54% tax. Binara island 7% tax
Cartel return rate with focus 54%. Binara island return rate with focus 49%

f#ck the cartel x1000
• ### sandstorm22 wrote:

Nice. I will message you in game in few hours.

...and you're right. The cartels and their lackeys will soon be here trying to cause confusion with disinformation. The math is simple.

Cartels 54% tax. Binara island 7% tax
Cartel return rate with focus 54%. Binara island return rate with focus 49%

f#ck the cartel x1000
Just let me know mate and I will add you! cheers!
• ### sandstorm22 wrote:

Nice. I will message you in game in few hours.

...and you're right. The cartels and their lackeys will soon be here trying to cause confusion with disinformation. The math is simple.

Cartels 54% tax. Binara island 7% tax
Cartel return rate with focus 54%. Binara island return rate with focus 49%

f#ck the cartel x1000
simple math?
Let's say i want to refine 100 t5 Leather, at t5 hide priced at 550/pc and t4 leather priced at 350/pc
which make total material cost before return is 2000silver/proc

if let's say i refine at city plot(return 36.7%) with 54% tax(8100), i will get back around 73,400 silver value on return(36.7%)

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 8.1k(tax) - 73.4k(return) = 134,700 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

But in case i choose ur private plot(7% tax // 28.4% )

if i refine 100 t5 leather, 200k cost of material before return,

the usage fees is 7%(1050) with reurn of 28.4%, i will get back material return valued at 56,800.

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 1.05k(tax) - 56,8k(return) = 144,250 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

TL;DR
The return rate of 36.7% still out value the 54% usage fees, making it even better than using ur private plot even if it's on 0% usage fees, lol

### sandstorm22 wrote:

Nice. I will message you in game in few hours.

...and you're right. The cartels and their lackeys will soon be here trying to cause confusion with disinformation. The math is simple.

Cartels 54% tax. Binara island 7% tax
Cartel return rate with focus 54%. Binara island return rate with focus 49%

f#ck the cartel x1000
simple math?Let's say i want to refine 100 t5 Leather, at t5 hide priced at 550/pc and t4 leather priced at 350/pc
which make total material cost before return is 2000silver/proc

if let's say i refine at city plot(return 36.7%) with 54% tax(8100), i will get back around 73,400 silver value on return(36.7%)

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 8.1k(tax) - 73.4k(return) = 134,700 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

But in case i choose ur private plot(7% tax // 28.4% )

if i refine 100 t5 leather, 200k cost of material before return,

the usage fees is 7%(1050) with reurn of 28.4%, i will get back material return valued at 56,800.

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 1.05k(tax) - 56,8k(return) = 144,250 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

TL;DR
The return rate of 36.7% still out value the 54% usage fees, making it even better than using ur private plot even if it's on 0% usage fees, lol
Oh, look at this a new account that as of now it has only 1 post, meaning, THIS ONE RESPONSE THAT TRIES TO DISCREDIT MY SERVICES.

wow, you guys are amazing xD ffs go get a life

### sandstorm22 wrote:

Nice. I will message you in game in few hours.

...and you're right. The cartels and their lackeys will soon be here trying to cause confusion with disinformation. The math is simple.

Cartels 54% tax. Binara island 7% tax
Cartel return rate with focus 54%. Binara island return rate with focus 49%

f#ck the cartel x1000
simple math?Let's say i want to refine 100 t5 Leather, at t5 hide priced at 550/pc and t4 leather priced at 350/pcwhich make total material cost before return is 2000silver/proc

if let's say i refine at city plot(return 36.7%) with 54% tax(8100), i will get back around 73,400 silver value on return(36.7%)

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 8.1k(tax) - 73.4k(return) = 134,700 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

But in case i choose ur private plot(7% tax // 28.4% )

if i refine 100 t5 leather, 200k cost of material before return,

the usage fees is 7%(1050) with reurn of 28.4%, i will get back material return valued at 56,800.

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 1.05k(tax) - 56,8k(return) = 144,250 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

TL;DR
The return rate of 36.7% still out value the 54% usage fees, making it even better than using ur private plot even if it's on 0% usage fees, lol
Oh, look at this a new account that as of now it has only 1 post, meaning, THIS ONE RESPONSE THAT TRIES TO DISCREDIT MY SERVICES.
wow, you guys are amazing xD ffs go get a life
im playing for a while, having 3 chars with full spec crafting,just starting create forum account for replying, yeah, nice comeback u get there. Instead of arguing using fact , u still continue whining, lol ffs.

### sandstorm22 wrote:

Nice. I will message you in game in few hours.

...and you're right. The cartels and their lackeys will soon be here trying to cause confusion with disinformation. The math is simple.

Cartels 54% tax. Binara island 7% tax
Cartel return rate with focus 54%. Binara island return rate with focus 49%

f#ck the cartel x1000
simple math?Let's say i want to refine 100 t5 Leather, at t5 hide priced at 550/pc and t4 leather priced at 350/pcwhich make total material cost before return is 2000silver/proc
if let's say i refine at city plot(return 36.7%) with 54% tax(8100), i will get back around 73,400 silver value on return(36.7%)

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 8.1k(tax) - 73.4k(return) = 134,700 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

But in case i choose ur private plot(7% tax // 28.4% )

if i refine 100 t5 leather, 200k cost of material before return,

the usage fees is 7%(1050) with reurn of 28.4%, i will get back material return valued at 56,800.

so the total cost to refine 100 t5 leather will be;; 200k + 1.05k(tax) - 56,8k(return) = 144,250 silver to refine 100 t5 leathers

TL;DR
The return rate of 36.7% still out value the 54% usage fees, making it even better than using ur private plot even if it's on 0% usage fees, lol
Oh, look at this a new account that as of now it has only 1 post, meaning, THIS ONE RESPONSE THAT TRIES TO DISCREDIT MY SERVICES.wow, you guys are amazing xD ffs go get a life
im playing for a while, having 3 chars with full spec crafting,just starting create forum account for replying, yeah, nice comeback u get there. Instead of arguing using fact , u still continue whining, lol ffs.
I am sorry pal, you are the one that created the account LITERALLY TODAY just to answer this post, in this very controversial matter. Any way, I encourage everyone that I invite to my island to do the math before using the tanner! and they can choose! Good luck to you, not answering anymore cheers!
• So I just used Albion 2D. Used the calculator to make 100 T4 Leather. I kept producing until I didn't have enough T4 hides and T3 leather to make any more T4 Leather.

I used cartel at 54% return and 54% tax
Island at 49% return and 7% tax

Island returned 194 T4 leather at a cost of 953 silver

Cartel returned 212 T4 Leather at a cost of 8,017 silver. Cartels 18 extra T4 leather produced could be sold 329 silver each = 5,922 silver.
Total cost of cartel is 8017 - 5922 = 2,095

Final tally to produce 100 T4 Leather
Island 953 silver
Cartel 2,095 silver

To craft at a Cartel station will cost you more than double.

Open to correction since it's late and i'm tired.
• The market value of resources (which are defining the value of the return) scales different then their item value (which defines the base crafting price i think). So maybe it is true that refining T4 on an island is better, but look very closely at higher tiers/enchantments and weapons/gear before you burn your money.
• ### Blatta wrote:

The market value of resources (which are defining the value of the return) scales different then their item value (which defines the base crafting price i think). So maybe it is true that refining T4 on an island is better, but look very closely at higher tiers/enchantments and weapons/gear before you burn your money.
This is big brain. I can at almost any moment in time, make the argument that the taxes on a station are too high, too low, or fine. By just looking at how the taxes and market values interact first, and hen picking examples.

Never trust anyone in the world that shows you a single example of tax math, and then tells you it represents the entire mechanic. They are uninformed at best and con artists at worst.
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• ### sandstorm22 wrote:

So I just used Albion 2D. Used the calculator to make 100 T4 Leather. I kept producing until I didn't have enough T4 hides and T3 leather to make any more T4 Leather.

I used cartel at 54% return and 54% tax
Island at 49% return and 7% tax

Island returned 194 T4 leather at a cost of 953 silver

Cartel returned 212 T4 Leather at a cost of 8,017 silver. Cartels 18 extra T4 leather produced could be sold 329 silver each = 5,922 silver.
Total cost of cartel is 8017 - 5922 = 2,095

Final tally to produce 100 T4 Leather
Island 953 silver
Cartel 2,095 silver

To craft at a Cartel station will cost you more than double.

Open to correction since it's late and i'm tired.