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    • sandstorm22 wrote:

      No committee needed.
      Free enterprise without price fixing monopolies. It's corrupt. There is a reason Anti Trust Laws are a thing.
      So murder should be a crime in AO as well, we should lock them all up for 10-25 years. Since video game things and non-video game things are equivalents.

      You need to do better than that.
      Discord: Piddle#7413 "The purpose of existence is simple: everything is fuel for the magmaw." —Jaji, magmaw worshipper
    • Piddle wrote:

      sandstorm22 wrote:

      No committee needed.
      Free enterprise without price fixing monopolies. It's corrupt. There is a reason Anti Trust Laws are a thing.
      So murder should be a crime in AO as well, we should lock them all up for 10-25 years. Since video game things and non-video game things are equivalents.
      You need to do better than that.
      Actually no, I don't need to be better than that. When price fixing monopolies are ruining other gamers experience then it would be wise for SBI to correct it. FO with the hyperbole.

      Edit: and there is an obvious limit to the 'sandbox' experience, which everyone espouses here when challenged about a game play complaint. If it was a truly a free for all there would be no rules about real life cash being traded ...or now casinos being stopped.

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    • sandstorm22 wrote:

      Piddle wrote:

      sandstorm22 wrote:

      No committee needed.
      Free enterprise without price fixing monopolies. It's corrupt. There is a reason Anti Trust Laws are a thing.
      So murder should be a crime in AO as well, we should lock them all up for 10-25 years. Since video game things and non-video game things are equivalents.You need to do better than that.
      Actually no, I don't need to be better than that. When price fixing monopolies are ruining other gamers experience then it would be wise for SBI to correct it. FO with the hyperbole.
      Edit: and there is an obvious limit to the 'sandbox' experience, which everyone espouses here when challenged about a game play complaint. If it was a truly a free for all there would be no rules about real life cash being traded ...or now casinos being stopped.
      Well, what you said was dumb. If you want to stick to the dumb thing you said, I am certainly fine with it.

      Making up more nonsense to cover the old nonsense isn't a winning strategy either. If you can't defend your previous fallacies, you won't bother defending any of the other stupid things you say.

      Repeating over and over, that some people are unhappy and someone ELSE needs to do something about it, just makes you look like exactly what you are. Someone who doesn't want to do anything for themselves, but demands to be catered to. People are always unhappy about something. Frequently people are angry about the same thing in diametrically opposed ways. That's just life.

      We need powerful shadow warriors to take up LetWolf's mantel, not a bunch of flat toothed, soft handed, smooth brained soy bois.

      Combating Lymhurst AND Fort Sterling Monopoly. Join us!
      Discord: Piddle#7413 "The purpose of existence is simple: everything is fuel for the magmaw." —Jaji, magmaw worshipper
    • Piddle wrote:

      sandstorm22 wrote:

      Piddle wrote:

      sandstorm22 wrote:

      No committee needed.
      Free enterprise without price fixing monopolies. It's corrupt. There is a reason Anti Trust Laws are a thing.
      So murder should be a crime in AO as well, we should lock them all up for 10-25 years. Since video game things and non-video game things are equivalents.You need to do better than that.
      Actually no, I don't need to be better than that. When price fixing monopolies are ruining other gamers experience then it would be wise for SBI to correct it. FO with the hyperbole.Edit: and there is an obvious limit to the 'sandbox' experience, which everyone espouses here when challenged about a game play complaint. If it was a truly a free for all there would be no rules about real life cash being traded ...or now casinos being stopped.
      Well, what you said was dumb. If you want to stick to the dumb thing you said, I am certainly fine with it.
      Making up more nonsense to cover the old nonsense isn't a winning strategy either. If you can't defend your previous fallacies, you won't bother defending any of the other stupid things you say.

      Repeating over and over, that some people are unhappy and someone ELSE needs to do something about it, just makes you look like exactly what you are. Someone who doesn't want to do anything for themselves, but demands to be catered to. People are always unhappy about something. Frequently people are angry about the same thing in diametrically opposed ways. That's just life.

      We need powerful shadow warriors to take up LetWolf's mantel, not a bunch of flat toothed, soft handed, smooth brained soy bois.

      Combating Lymhurst AND Fort Sterling Monopoly. Join us!
      lol white noise. All I hear are dolphin clicks. Maybe you're ESO?, either way, you make zero sense.

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    • tabooshka wrote:

      Heyayajajaja wrote:

      They make monopolies because they are RMT'ing out of this game. If they weren't ingame currency wouldn't matter to them.
      as always bold statement without any proof
      It's all about your criminal logic.
      Only criminals believe that their crime is committed at the time of its proof. Therefore, they blame the witnesses or the police for the consequences.

      In the real world, a crime is committed when someone breaks the law, and all the consequences are the result of breaking the law.


      Why people think this much silver to RMT? Easy, there is no content in game, to waste billions of silver. No one need that much silver, so no one will do the hard job, for the thing they no need.

      So looks like they need that much silver? What for?
    • iRawr wrote:

      in the real world, a crime is committed when someone breaks the law,
      in real world you are innocent till proven guilty, I know, hard concept to grasp, what you are doing right now, in real world is called slander/defamation, so you should be punished as well

      What do they need so much silver for?
      What do you need so much trolling here for?

      quite simple

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    • tabooshka wrote:

      iRawr wrote:

      in the real world, a crime is committed when someone breaks the law,
      in real world you are innocent till proven guilty, I know, hard concept to grasp, what you are doing right now, in real world is called slander/defamation, so you should be punished as well
      What do they need so much silver for?
      What do you need so much trolling here for?

      quite simple
      No its a protection, for real innocent, abused by criminals to not get punishment they deserved.

      You guilty right from the moment you break the law. Not proves makes you guilty, but the fact you did something not legal.

      And i see that you don't understand that conception.
      And trying to trick it, as break the law with no proofs = you r innocent. Nope, its not. If you break the law = you guilty. But i can understand why some ppl like to lie to themselves.
      They just got problems with they morale codes.

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    • sandstorm22 wrote:

      Piddle wrote:

      Well, what you said was dumb. If you want to stick to the dumb thing you said, I am certainly fine with it.Making up more nonsense to cover the old nonsense isn't a winning strategy either. If you can't defend your previous fallacies, you won't bother defending any of the other stupid things you say.

      Repeating over and over, that some people are unhappy and someone ELSE needs to do something about it, just makes you look like exactly what you are. Someone who doesn't want to do anything for themselves, but demands to be catered to. People are always unhappy about something. Frequently people are angry about the same thing in diametrically opposed ways. That's just life.

      We need powerful shadow warriors to take up LetWolf's mantel, not a bunch of flat toothed, soft handed, smooth brained soy bois.

      Combating Lymhurst AND Fort Sterling Monopoly. Join us!
      lol white noise. All I hear are dolphin clicks. Maybe you're ESO?, either way, you make zero sense.

      That is the tinnitus from banging your head against the wall without your special magic helmet mommy gave you.

      After she is done making your dinosaur chicken nuggs, she can help you put it back on.
      Discord: Piddle#7413 "The purpose of existence is simple: everything is fuel for the magmaw." —Jaji, magmaw worshipper
    • Piddle wrote:

      Barathorn wrote:

      You do realise though that break even on most of these plots is really high right? I mean at 60% tax you still come out way in front of the curve. If you are that concerned simply message the owners and ask for associate rates, it isn't a difficult process.

      Breaking news - plot owners are not going to make a loss for your benefit and to expect them to makes zero sense.

      They could be charging a lot more for using the stations.
      Is it time to form another committee about what is fair taxation for plots? I'll just pick some people at random and you guys all hash it out together. We will abide by whatever decisions you all make together.
      Committee Members for Fair and Balanced Taxation on the Means of Production

      iRawr
      keyfouyr
      Player112 [nope]
      Barathorn [fair and benevolent helper]
      Predatz
      Rocandill
      Saya [Spartacus]
      Sevens
      AdamSmith [Bungle]
      Bogul
      StormLord [Starlord]
      Hollywoodi
      Sandstorm22
      I mean this is a great list, there are names missing off it who should be on it, and names on it who shouldn't be on it, but I think you did a decent job Piddle. Let us say a C+, no wait, B-, you deserve that at least for the effort. Good work.

      I mean if people are so bent out of shape about it, just remove associate rates, then everyone will pay the same and fair competition will be had by all.

      I fully accept the impact of 50% tax to me is very different to someone who just started playing, I wish this was not the case. But it is

      I don't really know what else to say on the matter, I hope Midgard doesn't send me to jail..
      Pre Patch 16 UO Player - Casual PK/Carebear Crafter - Now Old.
    • I was a normal crafter for the first year or so of the game, I would use the cheapest buildings. Get ignored by owners, but more importantly a lot of you are assuming new players have it worse.

      I remember the fee's being 300-400 percent first week or two, and you had to craft these things to "try" to get ahead even though the items you were crafting were not selling for profit. (50-60 percent is actually only 6% of the 999% it can be moved to) Generally increased taxes eventually lead to increase item costs which is reflected by the market, even in these expensive times if you play your cards right there's opportunity.

      Now new players have Random Dungeons, And most importantly a black market, adventurers challenge, guides from veterans.

      Now I see why I used to get ignored though, you can only send 30 mail out a day and when you get 50+ its not gonna happen.
      (I stick to w/e the majority of owners decide with my shops, if it swings the other way I will comply)

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    • Midgard wrote:

      Barathorn wrote:

      I don't really know what else to say on the matter, I hope Midgard doesn't send me to jail..
      Hey ... I was the one defending and saying no one was going to jai!... case dismissed!
      I am sorry, but I am going to have to appeal your ruling, as biased and not in accordance with the rules. As soon as I make up another list for the appeals court, I will get back to you with their ruling.
      Discord: Piddle#7413 "The purpose of existence is simple: everything is fuel for the magmaw." —Jaji, magmaw worshipper
    • Piddle wrote:

      Barathorn wrote:

      You do realise though that break even on most of these plots is really high right? I mean at 60% tax you still come out way in front of the curve. If you are that concerned simply message the owners and ask for associate rates, it isn't a difficult process.

      Breaking news - plot owners are not going to make a loss for your benefit and to expect them to makes zero sense.

      They could be charging a lot more for using the stations.
      Is it time to form another committee about what is fair taxation for plots? I'll just pick some people at random and you guys all hash it out together. We will abide by whatever decisions you all make together.
      Committee Members for Fair and Balanced Taxation on the Means of Production

      iRawr
      keyfouyr
      Player112
      Barathorn
      Predatz
      Rocandill
      Saya
      Sevens
      AdamSmith
      Bogul
      StormLord
      Hollywoodi
      Sandstorm22
      I AM NOT PLAYING THE GAME OVER THAN 1 MONTH AND NOT GOING TO PLAY THE GAME FOREVER, SORRY FOR MISUNDERSTANDING AND HERE IS REAL IDENTITY OF PIDDLE.. GL

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    • AdamSmith wrote:

      Piddle wrote:

      Barathorn wrote:

      You do realise though that break even on most of these plots is really high right? I mean at 60% tax you still come out way in front of the curve. If you are that concerned simply message the owners and ask for associate rates, it isn't a difficult process.

      Breaking news - plot owners are not going to make a loss for your benefit and to expect them to makes zero sense.

      They could be charging a lot more for using the stations.
      Is it time to form another committee about what is fair taxation for plots? I'll just pick some people at random and you guys all hash it out together. We will abide by whatever decisions you all make together.Committee Members for Fair and Balanced Taxation on the Means of Production

      iRawr
      keyfouyr
      Player112
      Barathorn
      Predatz
      Rocandill
      Saya
      Sevens
      AdamSmith
      Bogul
      StormLord
      Hollywoodi
      Sandstorm22
      Blaming me as part of cartel LMAO , sorry you are mental
      The list is a mix of both plot owners and anti plot owners. Obviously both need an equal voice in the discussion.

      I am offended that you would accuse me of calling you a plot owner. You are far too stupid and poor. I would never make such a mistake.

      If you don't want your voice heard on the matter, that just means you want to leave it up to the others. Which is fine, Ill find a replacement for you. I think I have a crusty sock laying around somewhere.
      Discord: Piddle#7413 "The purpose of existence is simple: everything is fuel for the magmaw." —Jaji, magmaw worshipper