Can't we reduce the amount of rewards during the season and have the seperation of lvl 1-3 the same as in the off-season?
With the current system during the season, we get to play less cgvgs than in the off-season.

Please stop the heavy timegating and make content accessible to everyone at any time. We already have everyone now, just remove the timegates please for the first 1-3 levels and make level 4 daily, so people get to play a normal level cgvg at least once a day.

How does it feel breaking your word and using Exclusive season rewards to fund players because your art team is to lazy to make new battle mounts. The Beetle doesn't say its Exclusive and all other season battle mounts after the beetle im sure wont be Exclusive but going back on your word for the ones that already are listed as Exclusive
is and should always be the wrong way to go. I understand you "changed"
your mind on theses mounts but only the ones that were made after this
change was made should be used. Otherwise how do we know you wont use
every item you list as Exclusive because well you feel like it? Your word is your bond!



PS. Its not about the damn mount is about your WORD.

calm down boy you wont get it anyway... dint be too greedy

Please consider vastly increasing the timers for levels 1,2,3 during season and also significantly decreasing the rewards for just levels 1,2,3.

I would suggest these timers:
Level 1: 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23
Level 2: 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 0
Level 3, 4, 7, —, 13, 16, 19, 22, 1

No shows for level 1,2,3 should be considered draws since they are so frequent.

I would change the season point rewards to 0 for level 1, 0 for level 2, and 1 for level 3. I would reduce the fame and silver reward by 20-30%.

Please also consider increasing and flattening the ip cap on the level 1,2,3 fights. I would suggest a single ip cap of 1200 and 80% capped above that.

Most crystal fights are currently fought around 1200 ip. The combination of a stronger cap (80% vs the previous 50%) and ip getting buffed should make this cap easy to reach with 6.1 gear.

I suggest flattening the cap to only 1 cap instead of 3 because it will be really annoying to need 3 different sets of gear ready depending on which level crystal you intend to run. Please let us use the same gear for all of the basic level 1-3 crystals.

Its not about the mount its about saying something and holding your "word" on that, Not changing it because you feel like it after the fact. If they wanted to stop making them Exclusive thats fine just like the beetle doesnt state that its Exclusive so from now on they can use thoughs but the ones that say Exclusive should remain Exclusive because thats what they said it was going to be period. Its all about trust nothing to do with the item itself. Also what do you mean I wont get it anyway?

This is probably the first time a game developper tells me to open an excel spreadsheet in order to play a damn video game. Please remove these time gates for the love of god.

+1

Return of exclusive items destroys trust inthe value of this kind of items and is devaluating the collectors game style and investment possibilities besides gold. Ok, not the major point of this game. But why is it neccessary? Nobody is even able to rename and recolor this mounts a bit?

While ZvZ is going to be available seven(!) times a day for players in nearly all timezones, some guilds will have timezone based disadvantages in Crystal League .

Let's suppose some guild conquers a territory with 15:00 UTC prime. In order to upgrade the territory tower it has to participate in Crystal League fights at 12:00 or 19:00.
However, EU guilds wouldn't have such problem.

Doesn't seem fair.

Hmmmm, Rhino t5/t6/t7/t8 will stay collector ?

I agree that time-gating makes these 7-20 minute long CGvGs feel underwhelming.
A daily tournament is the way to do it.

Give them 25 minute timers, put them in 30 minute timeslots instead of hourly, and give us 3-4 over the course of 1 and a half to two hours in daily tournaments.
Let the top performers be seeded into the end of season elimination ladder.

Still hoping they add more crystal timers

UP

If anyone has a answer...

Really nice reward

5v5 is one of the reason I continue playing, but my play time is between 10pm and 1am as I am sure is the case for many here in the UK, and so there is no option for me to enter which is disappointing.

The weekend would be the only possibility, but even then it's only one or two games per week

I feel that.
Weekend tournaments could be really fun!

Can we talk about how low the season points for crystal gvg are now?
For context here is the old points system:




Daily you could win 432 points / 5 players = 86.4 points doing tier 7 towers and thats if you were putting in work all season long. Realistically the average strong team probably averaged a T4/T5 tower so (288 + 336)/2 ~ 312 points per crystal / 5 players = 62.4 points per day. I have personally been there and done the grind.
There are definitely problems with the current system. ie your crystal tower downgrades on you for stupid reasons like forgetting gear, forgetting to sign up, signing up the wrong character, not making it to the zone in time, or getting ganked, or heaven forbid got busy irl. Even worse, there was an entire metagame surrounding retaliating so teams either had to choose to crystal gvg or fight the retaliation because 1 utc retaliations would occur the same time as cgvg.

However, this new system makes gvging during the week (except Tues) effectively worthless. Too many of the points are effectively controlled by the calendar. This system is going to reward compositions that angle shoot rather than consistently strong teams. I love the idea of high risk, high reward fights at the month and season boundaries. However, there should also be decent rewards for consistent performance similar to the current system. Even in the best case of having a T3 map available for every day there isn't a T4+ fight (42 days of the 90 day season) only yields 1050 points total. Playing day and winning 4 fights gives you L3(5) + L4(25) + L5(100) + L6(500) = 630 points. Imagine losing a 90 day season because 5 people play on 3 days of the season (Day 15, Day 43, Day 71) and won 4 fights.

lvl 1 = 512 teams
lvl 2 = 256 teams
lvl 3 = 128 teams
lvl 4 = 64 teams
lvl 5 = 32 teams
lvl 6 = 16 teams
lvl 7 = 8 teams
lvl 8 = 4 teams
lvl 9 = 2 teams
1 lvl 9 winner

This system already needs 512 teams to show up at lvl 1 towers to produce a single winner. At the time of writing this there were 16 fights in NA and 19 fights in EU today for a total of 35 fights. In a perfect 9 round bracket of (35 fights * 90 days) = 3150 people you would still have 6 undefeated players remaining.
Aka if this system was perfect, at the end of the day 6 teams should win a T9 tower

That is the best case, so lets talk about the worst possible case for 80 teams in 40 fights.
Saturday:
lvl 1 - 40 fights

Sunday:
lvl 1 - 20 fights
lvl 2 - 20 fights

Monday:
lvl 1 - 20 fights
lvl 2 - 10 fights
lvl 3 - 10 fights
yielding 5 lvl 4 tokens

Tuesday:
lvl 1 - 20 fights
lvl 2 - 10 fights
lvl 3 - 5 fights
lvl 4 - 5 fights
yielding 3 lvl 5 tokens

Wednesday:
lvl 1 - 25 fights
lvl 2 - 10 fights
lvl 3 - 5 fights - the 5 teams that already won lvl 5 tokens buy the L2 winners tokens from Tuesdays fight to continue doing the highest possible token
yielding 3 lvl 4 tokens

Thursday:
lvl 1 - 22 fights
lvl 2 - 13 fights
lvl 3 - 5 fights - the 5 teams that already won lvl 5 tokens buy the L2 winners tokens from Wednesdays fight to continue doing the highest token
yielding 3 lvl 4 tokens

Friday:
lvl 1 - 22 fights
lvl 2 - 11 fights
lvl 3 - 7 fights - the 5 teams that won lvl 5 already tokens buy the 5 teams worth of T3 tokens from Thursdays fight to continue the mayhem

Saturday:
lvl 1 - 19 fights
lvl 2 - 11 fights
lvl 3 - 6 fights
lvl 4 - 4 fights -
lvl 5 - 2 fights

As you can see, in the worst case, the "undefeatable" team with access to unlimited T3 tokens will eventually be the only team available for L7 towers in the worst case.
Now, I know this is an extravagant example. However, this completely excludes the fact that there will be some days where a player who fought before cannot make the next fight and therefore the 4 others have to buy 5 tokens at the auction house and start over.

In the early stages of a season
It is also worth noting that if players are not pulling tokens across timezones you have now introduced a month long winners and losers bracket. The teams that lose will never be in a position to fight a "winning" team again until the second month because they will be at least 1 tier behind the winning teams.

Finally, the new overcharge mechanic costs more energy (I was told 10) so basically any overcharging below L1-L4 is a loss. I don't see that as a bad thing for the game but the time gated system of energy distribution is going to make energy prices a roller coaster.

How do I recommend you fix this?

1. Allow teams to run any token tier >4 in the non-standard timeslots on Saturdays and Sundays for both of the timers AND Tie the tokens to their respective timezone (OCE/EU/NA) Ie a T4 token (OCE) or T4 token (NA) etc.
   
   • This allows teams that lost to participate in the L4 tower at the current L5 timeslot so you are not punished so heavily for a single loss
     
   • This will also help clear the large amount of unusable tokens due to time restriction
     
   • Tokens can only be run in their respective timer preventing teams from "no lifeing" during the week and playing in extra timezones on weekends (outside of buying on t3 and leveling them but #2 solves that).
     
   • This also means teams cannot make a last second season push by using leftover tokens in timezones they dont normally play in.
     
2. This could also lead into just making all tokens account bound because the way the system is designed there is a linear progression up the tower tiers. See "Proposed CGVG Adjustments" spreadsheet below.
   
   • The salvage costs alone should be enough benefit that you don't need to make these available on the AH. Due to the fact that tokens are season bound, the tokens earned during week 1-4 of a new season will be incredibly high priced because teams that can consistently win will only run the highest tier available to them. After all, this system is designed to promote 5v5 pvp therefore, teams should either fight or salvage for money rather than token based profiteering.
     
3. Make T4 tokens occur 1 hour after T3 on Tuesdays
   
   • the 13/20 utc timers will not be able to level their token to L3 before the Tuesday L4
     
   • Here is a proposed revision to the current schedule illustrating the change: Proposed CGVG Adjustments
     
4. You need to make T1-T3 worth more season points. Most of the consistent cGVGers are playing for the season points. The money in the current system barely pays for the cost of repairs due to overcharge let alone any gear losses.
   
   • If you want data to support this statement, compare the number of fights during the season to the off season. Basically we were lucky to get 10 teams signed up during the off season
     

I sadly don't have any trust in SBI for the game's longevity moving forward with this update.

- GvGs are removed
- Zerg playstyle required for territory
- No changes to alliance caps
- Resource nodes changed not for the better
- Removed one hour respawn treasure sites
- Enchanting cost rates doubled
- Weapons like arcane still left in the broom closet
- And of course crystal league still has loads of issues (even after making changes based on feedback)

The only truly positive things coming are the IP mastery changes and a redesigned world map, and I'm not convinced this new world map won't have copy pasted level design like it has now.

Pretty sure main reason is that when you win from a tower, you upgrade it, and it generates more points

But that has to be really nice system that you can just lost a leveld up tower to a zerg anyday

Im hopeless at this point.