It is just relevant for small scale.

So a non Prio thing, there is more important in ZvZ balancing and 5on5 to fix which is the focus.

Ironic off..

Yes I think Guardian Helmet Change was stupid. It not only completely kills curse, it is even a fantastic group heal.. within one minute 2 people heal 50% of their life back up, while fully moving ...

In fact after nature gots Fu** left and right, guardian helmet on 2 people heals same or even better in full kite as a nature on thorns and another person

Agree,

we soloed a group dungeon t6 in red zone in 3 with 3 guardian helmets and no healer

There is your problem.

Think harder

Yes it is that way, but in my eyes that is just one of a ton of things that is broken..

But it is even better..

In HG we was 4.1 over, and did face 7.1 great curse..+ holy..

Just Sprint away, dress both guardian helmet and dance while great curse trys do anything... Then kill them..

Redicoulos balance..

Cursed beam?
yes, 2 guardians can be a problem, but thats kind of true if you bring any 2x of a counter vs a specific set up of solo + 1 healer.

@Captainrussia

Cursed beam..

Cursed beam is a PVE or at best Mage raid dps skill..

Anyone using or even evaluating it in PvP says.. I am clueless on PvP, a pure pve player but I try to throw something in..

Curse W has 2 PvP skills... OW it is desecrate, chest fight vs non Melee or non bo it is desecrate. Cursed beam is at its best HCE..

Or maybe you found ur ultimate guardian helmet counter with it. Did you try it out before stating it's a PVE guild?

of course, but happy to explain it for you as a pve player..

Curse is a dot class, especially one handed.

Your main damage E depends on the amount of Dot's which are applied by Q

Maximum is 4 dots, then death curse does Max damage..

The root, applies a dot, which helps the main damage build up faster..

On top, just to let you know, in PvP often someone runs away for whatever reason.. sometimes to switch gear..sometimes to escape..

On top, curse is a kite class.. kite means you move mostly and try avoid damage while you build up dots that damage..

Now descreate is a root, root means it prevents moving, which adds to kite..

That's why it is a PvP skill..

Happy to help

I'll restate my question. Did you ACTUALLY try it out in HG or know somebody that tried this on HG?

Whatever if it's a spell used for PVE the vast majority of the time, it might be a solution against guardian helmet or at least make you not a sitting duck against them...

EDIT : Imo Cursed beam could be fun to rework as a single target moving channel. To place yourself in a way to keep beaming him etc...

an interrupt-able and stationary channel is not good for any 1vX

if it was uninterrupt-able, it would be viable

Cursed beam is totally useless, armor pierce is much better on pve. Calling it best raid dps skill is too much cause its useless. You need to keep 4 stack on every mob and lower their armor to improve your party dps. Cursed beam need rework but dunno how they ll do it.

I dont know what they can do with guardian helmet but increase the cd it may help, cause curse doesnt have any other counter. Telling this as a main curse player.

I've tried it successfully vs players using Guardian Helmet.
Would you settle for dealing a 387(E) + 885(W) = 1272 total Damage on W + E abilities (Beam + 0 stack Death Curse)
vs only dealing 387 on the Death Curse E (when your DOT based W pretty much gets insta-cleansed, as well as your Q's)???

I'll take abilities that apply 1272 damage, while not relying on DOT stacks any-day. And btw - 1272 DMG (this is just paper DMG off the Destiny board off my alt with 0 spec, to make the example spec agnostic) is roughly what most W+E abilities deal if combined together, (keep in mind this is a 1h weapon)
Actually there is little point using it in PVE - as the actual full DOT curse build deals more DMG, plus Cursed beam has no AOE (what most PVE skills are good for). Cursed beam only works as a "back up" - for when you actually cannot rely on your DOTs (i.e. - if going against a Guardian Helmet build), and that Armor Piercer on the W is so much better for PVE.
It is. Until its not. Like when you are up vs a Guardian Helmet.
Right, except none of this matters vs a Guardian Helmet. So another non-DOT based strategy (damage source) is needed.... hmmm.... what could that be?
(Another strategy, but this one is a bit more niche: is to bring some kind of silence (there are 2 types: Hellion and Demon) to silence them before they can pop a Guardian, but that actually requires skill and timing. The cursed beam strategy is literally idiot proof - you can just faceroll on your keyboard, as you are no longer relying on DOTs to deal DMG)
I disagree that "Curse is primarily a kite class". Sure there is a way to play it as one (pretty much like most other weapons can be played as kite, or not). But you don't have to play it as "kite" only. The old-school Hunter Hood reflect build (before they nerfed Retaliate from 5 sec to 4 sec duration) was all about taking that DMG upfront by facetanking and dealing as much DMG back as you could. And even tanking further with Bloodlust from the Merc jacket. Kiting is a flavor... but it does not work in all of situations - obviously.
Now at least you are starting to think outside the box! Yes, of course if Cursed would be a moving channel it would be great (and a bit OP? 880+ DMG to any mount while chasing it? No thanks, the newbs would ragequit)
If you have a problem getting "pounded" - punish them for it. Use Retaliate, or silence, or w/e. I mean there are ways, obviously it will not make you a 100% win (which is what most ppl always complaining seem to be looking for - "ability to win vs any counter".... its like.... okay... the point of the counter is to.... COUNTER!)
Well yes and no. You guys asked how to counter or at least not get demolished by Guardian Helmet. I gave you that answer. Now go try it. (yes it works, I guess I'll have to make a guide) You are now having a problem with getting interrupted?!?! Well - shit, thats a whole different issue.

Short answer - don't get interrupted by someone using a Guardian Helmet? Parry can no longer interrupt you (you can thank me later), so whats the problem? I've heard "Interrupt" (1st sword W) is the most useless skill in the game (its not, Im being sarcastic) - but at least all the fake sword users are not using it. So.... shouldn't be a problem right? As long as you don't run into @Equart - you're Ok using Cursed Beam. Axe has no interrupts... most other weapons have maybe roots, but not interrupts. (obviously some do... so its up to you to figure out a counter if you want to maintain your 100% win ratio)

PS. Morgana cape speeds up all of your channels (yes - test it). So do the items that have cast time modifier, like Tome of Spells.

If you have a problem getting "interrupted" while channeling Cursed beam - bring a silence. Demon Helmet can work wonders and actually prevent them from popping their Guardian Helmet in time...

@Captainrussia Ставь на закачку тестовый сервер ,Queen поставили.

да ну нах.... уже бегу... ппц

А как же контент для ютуба xD Там еще Авалонскую броню завезли.