What's up with this gank 7

    • What's up with this gank 7

      Entered the Caerleon tunnel fully loaded and saw a red going invisible. I thought I'd play with him a little. So I waited for him to become visible again. Another red entered, who I ignored. Then I activated High Command and threw the first red some rocks. Right then I was dismounted. Since I was fully loaded, I could not move, and I died.

      Had a full suite of 6.3 on with a 8.3 MP bag plus 1.4m stock plus command mammoth. Total loss about 120m. The loss could be recovered but I won't.

      I will give my stuff to my bro if he still wants to play. I have 20m silver plus plenty of additional silver tied up in market orders, also plenty of stock and assets.

      One thing I noticed right from the beginning was the toxicity in this game. That in itself was not a problem. What caught me off guard was the source of it. Even so, I could over come it until now. But currently the level of it has exceeded the normal game mechanics by a significant amount. I can see it going higher as things become more desperate.

      So, bye bye noobs. It was fun for almost 6 months. Now I am free to go do things more fun. I will still be around a bit to transfer stuff if my bro wants them.

      Laugh is all on the house. Enjoy.
    • Piddle wrote:

      You probably fell off your mount and died. Should have invested in some straps to keep yourself on it. I rebound my dismount key to something that wasn't so easily bumped.
      No. For this stupid comment, you can't have my stuff.

      It's wasn't exactly the first dismount. The prior occasion was well documented.

      MEATCUP wrote:

      I knew this day would come
      You never showed sign of it. I would say you have a strong poker face.

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    • Player112 wrote:

      Piddle wrote:

      You probably fell off your mount and died. Should have invested in some straps to keep yourself on it. I rebound my dismount key to something that wasn't so easily bumped.
      No. For this stupid comment, you can't have my stuff.
      It's wasn't exactly the first dismount. The prior occasion was well documented.

      MEATCUP wrote:

      I knew this day would come
      You never showed sign of it. I would say you have a strong poker face.
      The most embarrassing part was finding out what you were transporting on your 100M+ mount. How much were you looking to make on all that T3 Cloth?

      Also, as a venerated and world famous predictor of the future.


      Piddle wrote:

      Player112 wrote:

      Do you expect louder noises later when Saya style investments are made available?
      If I am completely honest, and this has no reflection on you personally, I expect you to hit a wall at some point and give up, or else you will reach some point and all of your enthusiasm for making numbers get bigger will erode away.
      That is just what happens historically.
      It seems your wall was putting too many eggs in one basket and then falling off your basket.

      You should soldier on. Perseverance is a better character trait than being able to make numbers go up slightly faster than other people.
      Discord: Piddle#7413
    • I feel a little bad, so I just wanted to go over the more important mistake you made, aside from falling off your mount. So lets do a little off the cuff maths.

      A command mammoth is about 106M, we will ignore your gear. Conservatively, let's say you have a 1 in 200 chance of getting picked off by gankers on it. So, you are risking .005 of the value of your mount on each run. For the mammoth that is about 530k. Your load on the other hand is both heavy and cheap. So lets say you paid 100 silver each for the 7 stacks of cloth. You have 700k invest. In Caerleon the load is worth 217 silver each, or 1.5M So if all goes well you net 800k.. So you are risking 530k to earn 800k. Or in other words you are working for 270k silver per trip. That is not great.

      If you had used a T8 Ox (1.8M) your risk of dying goes up. Let's say to 1 in 20 (this is high in my experience). So you would have been risking 5% of 1.8M or about 90k silver. Then your load would have been 800 - 90 or 710k per trip. Still not great, but way better.

      Part of being a master trader is a firm grasp of risk analysis, and using it to make sure you are using the proper mount for transporting your carrots and ores around the wonderful world of Albion.
      Discord: Piddle#7413
    • Piddle wrote:

      The most embarrassing part was finding out what you were transporting on your 100M+ mount. How much were you looking to make on all that T3 Cloth?
      I am surprised you see 100m as something that significant. Didn't you say you have 2b?

      I can ride around with 120m, no problems. I would have ran around with more if I had the skills for them. I do it because I like it, and I don't see it as a major loss if it was gone. I could have recovered it in a month or may be less. The problem isn't about recovery, but about what happens when I have 1.2b, or 12b. The toxicity would have taken that away just as quickly. This makes it not useful to have 1.2b. If 1.2b is not useful, why fret over 0.12b?

      Your vision is too limited. I always thought you were better than sharky. But, I think I made a mistake. Feel free to join sharky in jumping up and down with happiness over essentially nothing.

      I once carried a t8 ox on t3 ox, and lost both. So what? A pro trader is justified to carry anything with anything else. Silver comes to a pro trader easily. All he has to do is extend his open palm and have a big grin. It is not necessary to calculate.

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    • Player112 wrote:

      MEATCUP wrote:

      I knew this day would come
      You never showed sign of it. I would say you have a strong poker face.
      I predicted how you would lose the mount, I even posted a video of it here:
      Mounts are not f2p
      Also:

      This thread made my day!

      Player112 wrote:

      I once carried a t8 ox on t3 ox, and lost both. So what?
      I carry 20 t8 oxen on my T8 Ox - and lose neither...

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    • @Player112

      did I get this right? On a routine trading trip to Caerleon, you decide to harass a random red. And when more reds appear, you ignore them?

      I have no idea how you got dismounted so quick but you were waiting for something to happen. It just happened faster than you expected.

      I often accidentlly quaff potions and food when meaning to hit Q and W. Maybe you did hit A to dismount by error? It happens.

      or you clicked on something on the ground? The invis guy was next to a corpse or something?
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    • Ravenar wrote:

      @Player112

      did I get this right? On a routine trading trip to Caerleon, you decide to harass a random red. And when more reds appear, you ignore them?

      I have no idea how you got dismounted so quick but you were waiting for something to happen. It just happened faster than you expected.

      I often accidentlly quaff potions and food when meaning to hit Q and W. Maybe you did hit A to dismount by error? It happens.

      or you clicked on something on the ground? The invis guy was next to a corpse or something?
      I was searching for toxicity. Once found, confirmed, and to be beyond reasonable, I exit the situation. Unlike the other losers here, I am perfectly willing to use a command mammoth to do my tests because I don't consider it an unrecoverable loss - the ultimate goal wasn't about a few 100m's but a much larger number. There was no mistake on my part at all. It's not exactly an isolated incident, unless you choose to ignore the previous threads in the same vein. No doubt you, like idiot captainrussia, will tell me having a command mammoth dragged is just a piece of dust in my eye and happens to you all the time, right?

      I activated High Command which removed the bubble. Then I activated the rock throwing ability. I was dismounted at that point. There was no forward movement of the mammoth towards the direction of the click. It was a long spell direction bar, meaning the click would have moved the mammoth if it opened a container such as a corpse. As always when I do these test, I have only 2 fingers on the R and E keys. This was confirm visually before activation of High Command. It was a well practised sequence.

      When I started playing, I thought getting banned was how my exit would come. I suppose this way is slightly more intelligent of them. Either way, it doesn't matter as I was expecting it. It was a unique experience of toxicity from the very beginning to the end. Curios some believe they can make money with that.

      Earlier in the day, I had a trail of 10+ gankers trying to bring me down over 3/4 of a map length and failed. After, I had a permanent "escort" around me to pin down my position. They considered 1 escort wasn't enough but needed 3. They were easily thrown off by some simple strategies. I would not have minded if they beat me with normal game mechanics. But they were out of options.

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    • Player112 wrote:

      I activated High Command which removed the bubble. Then I activated the rock throwing ability. I was dismounted at that point. There was no forward movement of the mammoth towards the direction of the click. It was a long spell direction bar, meaning the click would have moved the mammoth if it opened a container such as a corpse. As always when I do these test, I have only 2 fingers on the R and E keys. This was confirm visually before activation of High Command. It was a well practised sequence.

      When I started playing, I thought getting banned was how my exit would come. I suppose this way is slightly more intelligent of them. Either way, it doesn't matter as I was expecting it. It was a unique experience of toxicity from the very beginning to the end. Curios some believe they can make money with that.

      Earlier in the day, I had a trail of 10+ gankers trying to bring me down over 3/4 of a map length and failed. After, I had a permanent "escort" around me to pin down my position. They considered 1 escort wasn't enough but needed 3. They were easily thrown off by some simple strategies. I would not have minded if they beat me with normal game mechanics. But they were out of options.
      or you could just come to terms that you still don't have the slightest clue how the game works and are still making mistakes left and right. Of course you'd have to come off your high horse for that, and actually admit the fact to begin with.

      Then you can start asking questions and reading guides or watching videos (like all normal players do who try to learn the game) to figure out how to get better at the game. But for that - as I've already mentioned, you'd have to take off your ego and your "Im Pro at everything" attitude and admit that you are just a noob...

      ...and start from there...

      PS. You died because you pressed "A" instead of "R"

      (or, and this might be a bit rare, but not an exploit by any means:
      1) 1st red goes invis and then walks into where you are standing (or just a little in front of you) in cheap 4.0 or 4.1 gear and suicides
      2) If you move with left-click, its the same command as "loot body" - so you dismount at soon as you click this corpse that now just appeared at the feet of your mammoth
      3) the rest is history, but TBH this would be some 200IQ strategy if the gankers were able to pull that off)

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