2vs2 Hellgates has to CHANGE ( Nerf & loot protect )

Qualotor · Jul 8th 2019, 3:28am

Alright so this is getting ridiculous, first of all, Great nature staff HAS TO get nerf, im talking about Living armor of course, the skill should be nerf from 8sec to 4sec

On top of that, those morons who go into hellgates and steal the loots in the middle and run away, THE MIDDLE CHEST NEED a 2 mins loot protect, so the first person or team that kill the chest can loot there stuff,
its so stupid to see people going in the middle and stealing the loot then run away, by adding a loot protect people will have to FIGHT for the loot or either choose to leave, isn't why hellgate is for ? fighting for the loot ?

Holoin · Jul 8th 2019, 3:34am

I agree that hellgates needs some mechanism to combat those who enter with mobility gear and steal the chests with no fight.

That destroy the idea of hellgates. Hellgates are supposed to be a place that forces pvp fights, not a place that forces a steal and run tactic.

Also, stunning the opponents dont work well....with propper timing all they need to do is use a cleanse and then dash away.

Maybe mobility gear needs a nerf.

Drazhen · Jul 8th 2019, 3:54am

I run HG both solo and duo and as 2 we had 0 solo escaping us or stealing our loot, an absolute 0 - maybe you need to gather more information about the game before commenting, this is a learn to play/anticipate/adapt issue.

My most memorable 1v1/2 fights since the launch of the game were in 2v2 HGs since the buff, it's also solid content for small scale pvp around the HG areas.

Qualotor · Jul 8th 2019, 4:11am

Well im glad for you Drazhen but, it doesnt mean that you got lucky, that this things aren't happening, and it has to change

Holoin wrote:

That destroy the idea of hellgates. Hellgates are supposed to be a place that forces pvp fights, not a place that forces a steal and run tactic.

Like this guy said, its exactly what it should be.

Hollywoodi · Jul 8th 2019, 6:24am

Hellgate in a Sandbox

Has tons of objective, I might even miss some

1) commerciall objective // aka the chest - in my eyes it is money making
2) PvP fights
3) PvP fights that has fixed numbers and cannot be zerged
4) fame farm
5) practice PvP
6) streamable solo content to make rl money
7) a place to troll people

solo environment you cannot be gankers by strength in numbers

These numbers do not show a priority but are just there.

If u think hg is u source as solo player for money, totally legit to run in on bloodletter max mobility the smoke cloud on head go for the chest and run..

If u think hg is a good place to fame farm, take u nature and flat 4 it.. a tome of insight is more expensive

If u want your arena 2 on 2 go and find player s inside that want same

There is no right or wrong just different objective, the entire game is based on that

So unless SBI destroys one objective ..all is good at the moment as it is..

And regarding great nature problem.
What about purge? Why does things have to be nerved that if u ask me, need to be buffed? Druidic was buffed cause played in Gvg and was dead because of purges.. Nature problem on purge is even worse, purged nature shield including stacks is usually dead nature..

So I agree with some posters, the problem is u not understand how to ✋ nature or don't want to carry the respective item to handle it..

outfit · Jul 8th 2019, 6:33am

Qualotor wrote:

Alright so this is getting ridiculous, first of all, Great nature staff HAS TO get nerf, im talking about Living armor of course, the skill should be nerf from 8sec to 4sec

On top of that, those morons who go into hellgates and steal the loots in the middle and run away, THE MIDDLE CHEST NEED a 2 mins loot protect, so the first person or team that kill the chest can loot there stuff,
its so stupid to see people going in the middle and stealing the loot then run away, by adding a loot protect people will have to FIGHT for the loot or either choose to leave, isn't why hellgate is for ? fighting for the loot ?

there are many threads about this subject already, I really don't know why they are taking so long to change it.

Maybe dev's think this is cool, I would rather play mario kart if I want to race someone, HG are to fight!

outfit · Jul 8th 2019, 6:41am

Drazhen wrote:

I run HG both solo and duo and as 2 we had 0 solo escaping us or stealing our loot, an absolute 0 - maybe you need to gather more information about the game before commenting, this is a learn to play/anticipate/adapt issue.

My most memorable 1v1/2 fights since the launch of the game were in 2v2 HGs since the buff, it's also solid content for small scale pvp around the HG areas.

maybe you have a good build to chase them, not everyone wants to change their build for a "runner build" to deal with those rats. HG are meant to fight, it's not about gathering info about how to chase someone that doesn't want to fight

Finalhecate · Jul 8th 2019, 6:42am

Qualotor wrote:

Alright so this is getting ridiculous, first of all, Great nature staff HAS TO get nerf, im talking about Living armor of course, the skill should be nerf from 8sec to 4sec

On top of that, those morons who go into hellgates and steal the loots in the middle and run away, THE MIDDLE CHEST NEED a 2 mins loot protect, so the first person or team that kill the chest can loot there stuff,
its so stupid to see people going in the middle and stealing the loot then run away, by adding a loot protect people will have to FIGHT for the loot or either choose to leave, isn't why hellgate is for ? fighting for the loot ?

you not even close to the history of the great nature staff..
alittle eduction and press bring some purge or interruptions. either of those will make the greater nature staff the greater nature meme.... living armor is not like back in teh days which was true godlike. greater nature can easily be counter if you bring some purge [1 fiendcowl, which is cool cause you get to use it for many thing including any positive they have in buff goes bye bye].. I doubt they will ever nerf the staff. it's been nerf to the ground..

because of the past. ambush in assasin jacket was nerf from 60s to 40.. living armor nerfed to the bone, thorn nerf, and partial heal was nerf...

and no im not a greater nature for saying all this. im a druid -.-... either that or look for how to kill healer video. there are alots out there.. i understand you are pissed with those rats going in taking your chest and running out. but a good combination of sets up and they are dead...

here is another one, nature can't run out with one click. they have to channel to leave the hellgate... so while these nature if you are a newbie can only for stall you and that about it unless they kicked your butt which is very sorry state... you can simply [if he didnt kick your but] follow and keep damaging him until mana runs out..

like this video, the player lost his partner.. grab the chest and started to run away, had those beautifull invis etc to try to run away... well after noticing that the damage of curse staff was good, i decided to finish him up by joining the fight with thorn..... because he had ice block to stall etc etc for living armor to keep poping and we didnt have purge... well... guess what.. 23:25 I said i will wait till his protect nature wears off. it does and we good full deep (>^(>o.o)> on him.. and he ends up getting busted...

that not the only time these two fought a greater nature and they are very new players [sun and pau]...

Instead of coming here with a nerf!!! go out there with better combination and suggested equip.. good luck and lastly, they will not nerf greater nature.... greater nature is a meme. and those who fall for it turns into a meme.

Finalhecate · Jul 8th 2019, 6:44am

outfit wrote:

Drazhen wrote:

I run HG both solo and duo and as 2 we had 0 solo escaping us or stealing our loot, an absolute 0 - maybe you need to gather more information about the game before commenting, this is a learn to play/anticipate/adapt issue.

My most memorable 1v1/2 fights since the launch of the game were in 2v2 HGs since the buff, it's also solid content for small scale pvp around the HG areas.

maybe you have a good build to chase them, not everyone wants to change their build for a "runner build" to deal with those rats. HG are meant to fight, it's not about gathering info about how to chase someone that doesn't want to fight

You sound familliar... checking....checking..

AHHH I REMEMBER YOUU!!!! forum.albiononline.com/index.p…?postID=930488#post930488 still didnt answer if you like the picture of the new hellgate formation

welcome to this thread man....... still gonna say it.... T_T purge XDDDD

Finalhecate · Jul 8th 2019, 6:49am

Hollywoodi wrote:

Hellgate in a Sandbox

Has tons of objective, I might even miss some

1) commerciall objective // aka the chest - in my eyes it is money making
2) PvP fights
3) PvP fights that has fixed numbers and cannot be zerged
4) fame farm
5) practice PvP
6) streamable solo content to make rl money
7) a place to troll people
solo environment you cannot be gankers by strength in numbers

These numbers do not show a priority but are just there.

If u think hg is u source as solo player for money, totally legit to run in on bloodletter max mobility the smoke cloud on head go for the chest and run..

If u think hg is a good place to fame farm, take u nature and flat 4 it.. a tome of insight is more expensive

If u want your arena 2 on 2 go and find player s inside that want same

There is no right or wrong just different objective, the entire game is based on that

So unless SBI destroys one objective ..all is good at the moment as it is..

And regarding great nature problem.
What about purge? Why does things have to be nerved that if u ask me, need to be buffed? Druidic was buffed cause played in Gvg and was dead because of purges.. Nature problem on purge is even worse, purged nature shield including stacks is usually dead nature..

So I agree with some posters, the problem is u not understand how to ✋ nature or don't want to carry the respective item to handle it..

forum.albiononline.com/index.p…-rats-in-HG-2v2/?pageNo=2 post 22.. i remember why hellgate was designed and the objective for that design and then the dev had to buff it because it was empty and because player QQ alot that they didnt find anyone. meaning player didnt find anyone who wanted to do those 2v2 and 5v5... so the dev buffed it and they cried for another buff... so the dev buffed it again. and then some of them cry for a nerf to much buffed XD.. and then we only see the dev doing the switch 5v5 man little bosses into the huge middle bosses . which some player said it affected the 2v2 man and are crying cause of it....

i miss my creepy pasta T-T oh wait.. there it is. ill rewatch it for lols

outfit · Jul 8th 2019, 6:50am

I guess the main subject here is about consensual PVP, that's what HG is about, CONSESUAL PVP.

If one part does not want to fight... they should not be able to get ANY loot, that's simple, that would stop those people that goes there to try to steal loot only.

No win = no loot

the way it is today is just ridiculus (Fire the guy who did that please), I can't get my partner's loot, cuz it's protected, but the enemy can get all the loot...

Finalhecate · Jul 8th 2019, 6:51am

Qualotor wrote:

Well im glad for you Drazhen but, it doesnt mean that you got lucky, that this things aren't happening, and it has to change

Holoin wrote:

That destroy the idea of hellgates. Hellgates are supposed to be a place that forces pvp fights, not a place that forces a steal and run tactic.

Like this guy said, its exactly what it should be.

They shouldn't have buffed it... then we could of seen if player would of gone in for a fair fight... if the dev only waited to see if it will still be empty after f2p it would of know how many of these player were doing hellgate... to bad they buffed it before it.. and now you have rats... RATTTAATOUIII EVERYONE CAN STEAL i mean cook

Finalhecate · Jul 8th 2019, 6:57am

outfit wrote:

I guess the main subject here is about consensual PVP, that's what HG is about, CONSESUAL PVP.

If one part does not want to fight... they should not be able to get ANY loot, that's simple, that would stop those people that goes there to try to steal loot only.

No win = no loot

the way it is today is just ridiculus (Fire the guy who did that please), I can't get my partner's loot, cuz it's protected, but the enemy can get all the loot...

revert all the buff and make it like i shown on the creepy pasta video.. where they all cry and screamed that there was no one doing it [because it wasn't free to play -.-]... like i said on post 12... they should of waited....
in the video one guy said you know what one second *goes watch the video*

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State of Hellgates
Apr 3rd 2019+6
SBI, you broke your own game with RDG, there is 0 incentive to do any other content in the game.

I came back to the game after a 4-5 month break, just to see that everyone is running rdg. hellgates are dead, and with reason. the fame is shit, the loot is shit.

HG is one of the only ways you can get a fairfight in this game as it will be 5v5.

I understand everyone is hyped with rdg and its good that people are getting out of caerlon etc etc but the rewards shouldn't be better than Hellgates.

I was hyped to come back to albion but albion without HG suuuucks
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source.. forum.albiononline.com/index.p…te-of-Hellgates/?pageNo=1

seriously? they coudl of waited for free to play april 10th.. i know 1 week after that we had unstable server cause to many player playing and then later the ddos. but then you could of checked if it really needed a buff... since it got double buff player switch from random dungeon to hellgate... when i made a video "the story you never knew' i didn't even knew about the double buff. i was earning awsom emoney and i was earning awsome fame..

if i knew hellgate was > random dungeon, i would of def went in with rat builds myself... it is what it is ... and now you cannot revert it or the majority of free to play will b***** like they did about the 1h spawn guardian... heheheheh

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