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Quote from kasttiel: “I believe this jacket was made to allow PVP players to approach their targets undetected. However, its 8 seconds of invisibility made it an easy way to escape from 1v1 combat, even if the player uses a stalker hood or guardian armor, it is still very difficult to finish a combat, even more it joins weapons with dash and undead cape . My suggestion is that players who have been attacked in the last 5 seconds only have half the duration of their invisibility. ” Where ambush i…

Quote from ArgiVanMosing: “its nearly impossible to win against the knight boots blackhands with cloth, when ure playing any cloth robe exxept cleric robe, the blackhands dmg is just way to high and cooldown so low. Back in the day when it was played with helloin shoes it was predictable butits impossible to react to the knight boots ” That’s means “self balanced meta” The more BH ppl we face in CD- more ppl start to use such items like cleric robe /ice block/iframes etc That’s just rock-scissor…

Quote from deenne: “Quote from BackOFF: “I don't care, is it OP. Just nerf it, because I don't like it. And the worst thing that SBI often listens to such nonsences. ” Quote from deenne: “before you decide to fix MACE also fix SPEAR.. this auto attack dmg is retarded.. why nature is unplayable in 2v2.. 3 stack nature cant out heal single auto attack. shit not balance ” just read everything then talk.. or just go back to ur BOW CRYING ” read everything WHERE? read what? U just crying “need nerf n…

Quote from SpicyPepper: “Quote from deenne: “If you think that spear is not overtunned u must be spear fan boy and u are biased or u dont want see that fact spear is overtunned. ” Can't you see his profile pic ?? Please put me out of this discussion. I'm only here to point out the profile pic. Leaving now. ; ” - if u see that pic you must se that’s not a build but just random beautiful items

Quote from deenne: “Quote from kheeta: “Before you start talking about spear OPness maybe u should try it for yourself and show us how easy it is? Did you try it? What is your winrate with spear? If it is so OP why we don’t see it in top infamy? Or you just retarded lose to some spears and got an buttfire? ” another clown.. spear is overtunned like almost everything what sbi decided to buff. I dont care what win rate is there, I dont care its OP or not. im saying this auto attack dmg buff is ret…

Before you start talking about spear OPness maybe u should try it for yourself and show us how easy it is? Did you try it? What is your winrate with spear? If it is so OP why we don’t see it in top infamy? Or you just retarded lose to some spears and got an buttfire?

1) all spears Es should not erase stacks That’s the main reason why some spears are not at their places 2) Ava spear is one of the most effective and fun weapons to play in CD The only thing that is bad with its E is that it’s reflectable while it should purge such buffs like Retaliate

Quote from Gacox: “I see that you are a bh user, but I'm sorry to tell you that playing with a 200k build that kills an 8.3 is not balanced, if you make a slight mistake it kills you. The scaling is the same in 8.3 as in 4.1, what's the point? It is normal that it hurts to have your weapon nerfed, but this game has to be balanced. I no longer fight them, I pass from dying for 50k profit at high level @kheeta ” You don’t read properly I don’t play bh at all because I don’t like how it looks and d…

Don’t see any problems to win bh using bloodletter/frost/warbow/spear/claymore U just need to be smart There’s no problems in BH The only one issue- it’s very easy to play

Quote from SpicyPepper: “Quote from kheeta: “Quote from SpicyPepper: “You've answered your own question :D. Buying stuff on the market place would be a hassle, especially if you buy them in bulk. Selling loot from PvP would be a nightmare because people want new stuff :D. You can sell them at a discount but a large portion of the player base wouldn't bother to check the discount, just like how most people buy the cheapest T7 armor instead of T6.1 masterpiece at the same price. ” NonsenseThere’s …

Quote from SpicyPepper: “You've answered your own question :D. Buying stuff on the market place would be a hassle, especially if you buy them in bulk. Selling loot from PvP would be a nightmare because people want new stuff :D. You can sell them at a discount but a large portion of the player base wouldn't bother to check the discount, just like how most people buy the cheapest T7 armor instead of T6.1 masterpiece at the same price. ” Nonsense There’s a lot of OWMMO where such scheme exists For …

Blah blah No single word about my arguments Meanwhile nobody plays “bh/deathgivers” builds for dagger pair This weapons have technically different gameplay , different rotation time etc Nobody use hellion boots for dagger pair because dagger pair is only used with stun-W Almost nobody usecleric robe for pair because longer rotation and another helm (not assassin one) Bh: Assassin hood/cleric/hellion Deathgivers: Stalker hood/assassin jacket/hellion Dagger pair: Cleric helm or cultist/ assassin j…

Quote from Clasics: “Quote from kheeta: “Quote from Clasics: “Quote from kheeta: “Guys rly? Dagger pair is hardest dissbalanced weapon for you? Not paws/bolts/curse/bh/frost/reg bow? Rly? ” Right now, after the recent changes, yes, shit ton of damage, huge range for a melee finisher, insanely low cd, not hard to land at all combo.Paws have insane mobility but the damage is ok. The biggest problem I find is rats abusing that mobility+AOE in corrupted dungeons. Bolts are the most braindead weapon,…

Quote from Trial_hard: “Quote from kheeta: “Just do a bunch of duels vs bh and you’ll learn how to win That’s “newb-killer-weapon” It devastating low skilled/low exp players but hardly win the guy that know what he’s doing and how to counter it Tip: Use res pots ” well if I play the bh and have activated hellion and the res pot comes a millisecond too early, i cancel the hellion, I went on over distance anyway as the channel will ALWAYS happen. If I hellion I increase distance and have finger re…

Just do a bunch of duels vs bh and you’ll learn how to win That’s “newb-killer-weapon” It devastating low skilled/low exp players but hardly win the guy that know what he’s doing and how to counter it Tip: Use res pots

Quote from Clasics: “Quote from kheeta: “Guys rly? Dagger pair is hardest dissbalanced weapon for you? Not paws/bolts/curse/bh/frost/reg bow? Rly? ” Right now, after the recent changes, yes, shit ton of damage, huge range for a melee finisher, insanely low cd, not hard to land at all combo. Paws have insane mobility but the damage is ok. The biggest problem I find is rats abusing that mobility+AOE in corrupted dungeons. Bolts are the most braindead weapon, already made a post on xbows in general…

Guys rly? Dagger pair is hardest dissbalanced weapon for you? Not paws/bolts/curse/bh/frost/reg bow? Rly?

Quote from Trial_hard: “Well, the Problem is the second part of the combo Cleric robe, rewind, anovidable damage proc for all dot classes.. All this ..be my guest.. But bh + chain are insta and deal around 1600+ damage to cloth in one strike..unshieldable / reflectable..due to the utility of blackhands.. And even that is okay..compare to other bullshit that exists, too But where it starts to get rediculous, and this is valid for BH and BL that the damage has ZERo requirements..stacks.. Double da…

I forget to add some rly powerful bl “nerfs” of pre-ftp / early ftp updates that has great influence on Bl gameplay 1) 20% higher character moving speed that makes “mobile” weapons less mobile compared to other weapons 2) almost 50% higher max hp that makes almost twice longer to reach 40% enemy hp Average max hp used to be 2k now it’s 3k Before that I could kill enemy just in 5 sec while retaliate is active For now it’s unreal to kill somebody with bloodletter in 4-5 sec if he is defending hims…

Quote from UNFM: “Quote from kheeta: “That’s manipulating Bloodletter is NOT only about its E All nerfs that touches bl: 1) 1h weapons dmg nerf 2)dash range nerf 3) dash cd nerf 4) E cd 5) E range I even don’t mention other items buffs that touches “bl vs others” balance ” 1) 1/3 faster bleeding stacking, main BL dmg ( bleeding is also affected by Q2 dmg buff 6/12/18% more dmg) and faster bleeding stacking2) true cuz of Q2, still Q2 > old dash + added 15% more dmg. 3) Dash - Cooldown: 14s -> 18s…